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Posted by jf2010 on May-12-2014 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
i like your stuff cos its kinda edgy and reminds of the late 90s stuff



Thanks mate


Posted by Dj_Kile on May-12-2014 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by jf2010
New uplifting WIP .. any feedback welcome



I really like this one, drew me right in
no holding back,very good delivery, good buildup, blends well with the beat when it comes in ... good work


Posted by jf2010 on May-12-2014 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Kile
I really like this one, drew me right in
no holding back,very good delivery, good buildup, blends well with the beat when it comes in ... good work



Thanks man.. Glad u like


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-13-2014 20:57:

Alright for this I recorded Novation Bass Station2 and DX7.

Lets just say there's no theme yet and i just kept it basic. There are four basslines including subbass. There are no leads however, next wip i'll introduce them. First bassline is bandpass filter high end from retrosyntn, coming in a 0:30 is novation bass staion 2 acid bass as well as subass at the 1:00 minute mark. At 1;30 mark is DX7 bassline, let me know if you think if it needs a higher octave or if its fine.

The clip is only 2 mins in length, next will be at 4.

Cheers.


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-14-2014 03:48:

Updated, added pad progressions, finally put an octave higher on the bassline at 1:30 and addeda lead which i think really sucks, makes me wanna give up and quite right now. damnit.


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-15-2014 12:21:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
lead at 2min mark is in wrong key....
rest is generic, however you managed to stay in key for the first 2 minutes, good work lol.
.


How can you tell, in my midi roll its in f major




quote:
Originally posted by clay
i hear nothing special about your new amazing hardware synths though, you could just as well use ES2


Thats all subjective and depends on the listener of course. Also if you read the first post, i kept it basic as possible.


Posted by evo8 on May-15-2014 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Alright for this I recorded Novation Bass Station2 and DX7.

Lets just say there's no theme yet and i just kept it basic. There are four basslines including subbass. There are no leads however, next wip i'll introduce them. First bassline is bandpass filter high end from retrosyntn, coming in a 0:30 is novation bass staion 2 acid bass as well as subass at the 1:00 minute mark. At 1;30 mark is DX7 bassline, let me know if you think if it needs a higher octave or if its fine.

The clip is only 2 mins in length, next will be at 4.

Cheers.



The intro is not bad actually - nice techy feel with the kick and then the BS2 bass at 0:30
the background pads dont work tho
then u bring in the off beat bass - but you could get rid of that and just lower the cutoff on the BS2 bass to suit - you can hear the low end starts to sound squashed when that subbass comes in, its struggling

Listen to the arp at 2 mins - its not in key at all???


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-15-2014 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
The intro is not bad actually - nice techy feel with the kick and then the BS2 bass at 0:30
the background pads dont work tho
then u bring in the off beat bass - but you could get rid of that and just lower the cutoff on the BS2 bass to suit - you can hear the low end starts to sound squashed when that subbass comes in, its struggling

Listen to the arp at 2 mins - its not in key at all???


Thank you Evo for you review, i'll roll off the frequencies more for the bassline at 0:30, im going to keep all. The pads i'll change, i just slapped them on there with omnisphere, will use something to compliment the overall feel.


Posted by evo8 on May-15-2014 15:24:

not sure about the lead i have in the breakdown for this one, any thoughts? maybe i should do something else in the break


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-15-2014 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
not sure about the lead i have in the breakdown for this one, any thoughts? maybe i should do something else in the break



Very nice, has an all time summery feel to it. Its warm and pleasant. The structure is pretty good, i like those plucks you bring in near the end of the wip.

I updated mine took out the pads and roll of frequencies to 235 in one bassline that you were talking about, also changed the q curve to 71 instead of 50. It should be clear now and acceptable. I also took off modulation from the last arp pluck that wasn't in key, i'm bad at key detection but i'm good at detecting other things.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on May-15-2014 19:04:

Things out of key, you can't use modern production and have all those bass 16ths at the velocity. It takes too much room and also sounds static. It should have that "rolling " quality. Sort of leading to the next quarter note.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on May-15-2014 22:56:

You have the bass on f.

This will force the listener to assume this is the root as it doesn't change. Then for some reason you seem to outline d minor over f except you also add before that bit comes in a synth on eb,

So you are in f minor and then you outline a minor 3rd on d and you have eb and e

Amazes me that people use midis. If you can't hear this, I mean shot dude. I don't know what to say.

You are superimposing 2 keys that are not related in any close way


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-16-2014 01:04:

So if the bass is in F that means its not the root note which also means it shouldn't be in f major but minor? Yeah i'm shot when it comes to key detection, every bit helps.


Posted by Seandroid on May-16-2014 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
So if the bass is in F that means its not the root note which also means it shouldn't be in f major but minor? Yeah i'm shot when it comes to key detection, every bit helps.


You...... You seriously can't hear it...?

Like. I can't explain to you the technical reasons that it sounds completely off, but isn't it... Super obvious?


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-16-2014 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
You...... You seriously can't hear it...?

Like. I can't explain to you the technical reasons that it sounds completely off, but isn't it... Super obvious?


are you gonna flame me now?


Posted by MSZ on May-16-2014 01:26:

People who shouldn't produce for 400 Alex.


Posted by Deillon on May-16-2014 08:27:

It's more like, if you cannot hear if something is out of tune, you are really far away from a decent quality song.


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-16-2014 08:57:

I guess i am dellion, but that won't stop me.


Posted by theterran on May-17-2014 09:13:

Might I suggest Paulino, that you listen to some classical music for awhile. Bach and Mozart for example, are great for ear training in terms of chord structure.

You *should* be able to hear "right" from "wrong" under normal circumstances, but sometimes it takes some practice.

And you should be also able to make as complicated a chord structure/progression as you want by ear without knowing theory this way.

Also...*rolleyes* @ TAflaming.


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-17-2014 09:14:

Yeah i like classical, i hope i can train my ears better, thank you terran.


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-17-2014 11:13:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
if youre so loaded why the fuck dont you get some proper musical training from a piano teacher.


I said i would already on the gas thread.


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-17-2014 11:32:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
a person isnt gear!


Are you that really retarded? or just plain blind?

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
After all that, then this.

Hopefully, i managed to learn more about theory and i'll take lessons guitar c enter.



Your the coolest, you make me laugh big time.


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-17-2014 11:46:

If thats what you think. I'm going have to learn in order to record guitar into my daw and it would help with overall theory.

I'm the one that should be making fun of you for not getting funds from their parents. Maybe because their to poor or think you really suck at making music. It shouldn't be the other way around idiot and second i make my own cash money kid.

Oh secret development is in the house today lol


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-17-2014 11:57:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
i have everything i need and all is payed for myself. if i want something i buy it, no problem. but i have to need it. thats where you fail, you are completely spontanious and dont think about what you want stuff for. youre like "what do i need now, i need something...".

i have a hard time believeing you make your own money.
what is your job?


Your the biggest idiot on here. You just type without reading any of the threads on here at all which means you have no basis on what you type at all you nnewb, All you have reason, headphones and genelecs, yup you have everything you need alright and alot for sure.

I do freelance landscaping on the weekends and home interior remodeling for my family's company. Please don't say i'm lucky working for my family and it shouldn't count. Its def a big plus and your the one who should be made fun of.


Posted by PaULiN0 on May-17-2014 11:59:

One thing palm, how old are you and why do you type like you haven't achieved your high school diploma yet? or passed freshman year of hs.


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