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Originally posted by Chimney Had my last exam today. 5th year of university done |
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Originally posted by viperx29 How many more left |
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Gz mate! |
What happened to the thread discussing the chick getting punched in the face?
I learned way more about FFTs and filtering than I had planned to just so I could make people sound like the probe droids from The Empire Strikes Back when they talk.
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Originally posted by FuzzQi What happened to the thread discussing the chick getting punched in the face? |
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Originally posted by Vector A Mods deleted it, I imagine. Or maybe Orangest-O did. |
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Originally posted by FuzzQi Damn, I thought TA was grown up enough to handle a sensitive topic |
"Amazon Is Killing My Sex Life" (or "Why tech industry workers are boring dates"): http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/05...ing-my-sex-life
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Originally posted by Vector A "Amazon Is Killing My Sex Life" (or "Why tech industry workers are boring dates"): http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/05...ing-my-sex-life |
Actually to further expand on that article, it isn't only the women that hate the Amazon employees. Most of them are fucking douche bags that couldn't program themselves out of a paper sack if they needed to. They're fucktard idiots who never had an interest in programming and took it up in college, learned all the worst practices, and then got a job with a bunch of other idiots.
People wonder why good software is dying, and it is because the current generation of domestic programmers are fucking tools who have no ability to think on their own and be creative and the companies that hire them split the workload between that and shitty programmers in the Philippines and South East Asia.
The only way to have any self respect as a programmer these days is to be doing something new and innovative and the only way to be happy is to be doing something you love while being new and innovative.
This is why I've taken a year of art history instead of engineering classes.
I dunno, seems like everything is oriented toward the cashout these days. Put some "app" out there that gets a few dozen thousand downloads, get bought up by a larger company. Then claim that you're "changing the world" or "disrupting existing industries" somehow. That's today's innovation for ya.
But there's still all those dudes working on memristors and shit for old guard companies. Sometimes I think it would have been better to do computer engineering than CS.
I've kept tooling around on my radio software for four years now trying to get it back to a commercial state on my own.
Last week I added a feature that turns peoples voices into gibberish while still retaining language like qualities. I made it so now you can make other people speak another language you don't understand... Unless you can speak both, in that case you have to be an interpretor. It sounds dumb to most people, but it's actually a pretty neat feature that simulates working with multi-national forces that do not speak the same language.
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Originally posted by Vector A But there's still all those dudes working on memristors and shit for old guard companies. Sometimes I think it would have been better to do computer engineering than CS. |
Time for another whiskey.
You should go back to making music.
I should take my own advice.
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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby You should go back to making music. I should take my own advice. |
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Originally posted by Vector A "Amazon Is Killing My Sex Life" (or "Why tech industry workers are boring dates"): http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/05...ing-my-sex-life |
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Originally posted by Lews Amusingly, all the women I've met who work for Amazon are boring as shit, too. I think the company just attracts a lot of boring people. |
Also I think that a CS degree is probably a soul sucking affair. You have to learn A LOT, in a very short time. Most programs are fairly intensive, leave little room for fun, and are pretty serious and competitive degrees. You end up with people that essentially go from HS where they don't really have a real life to getting a CS degree in 4 years and basically not having a life during their college years. God forbid they go to grad school in the same field.
I am glad I picked up programming when I was in middle school/high school. I am glad I started working when I could at 20 instead of going to college. I am glad I am doing college now and so far I haven't focused on ANY computer sciences stuff.
I have well developed hobbies OUTSIDE of what I do for work, AND I also enjoy what I do for work. A CS degree is a joke in the long run. As long as you have the skills and the ability to demonstrate your abilities (which CS is a field where that is extremely easy to do on your own) then you are set. I honestly think that anyone who went to school for a CS degree was probably cheating themselves (sorry JBJ).
I'm going to be starting a CS (or possibly software engineering) degree next semester (I'm currently doing some programming in the course I'm in atm though as well). I know the real learning for programming involves either real experience or the tinkering you do outside of uni/college but I still want to do it anyway. It's necassary for some jobs, yes you can get a job without a degree but there are plenty of people that only hire people with degrees.
I also fundamentally do want to learn and college based learning is something I actually enjoy. It's a bit weird working through begineer/intermediate java (or whatever language) books and then finishing them. I know I've finished them and that's all well and good but it just doesn't feel like a level of something that you can compare to anything else. So far I've done medium to hard stuff in my spare time (challenging myself) and done somewhat easy stuff in my course. Despite that though I still feel far better when I've done all the work for my course. I know it's an actual qualification and it's nice to have achieved that even though I know that's not do with my real skill level. Anyway, point is I feel like while tinkering is good/important in my spare time that academic style learning is useful to me as well. No doubt it's similar with many other people.
Also, one thing that's certainly the case with programming is that there's a wide variety of skill levels. You're far more likely to not have a life if you're not very good at it. The final thing is that I'm gonna be working for 40+ years probably so any learning that's better to do in industry I will get to eventually anyway. For the chance of a big boost to my employability initially and overall I think spending 3-4 years of my life in decent degree is a good idea.
Well yea, agreed, if you didn't start when you are 10-12 then you need to go to college for it. If it something you realized you wanted to do later in life then college is of course a benefit.
If you come out of high school though already knowing 90% of what an undergraduate degree would teach you it's probably better to start looking for work right out of HS and keep going doing that because you'll be a 22-24 year old with 4-6 years experience working in the real world where as a graduate is going to have no experience and be the same age.
And yea, learning never stops in any programming job. I think a lot of programmers get out of college and go "well done!" and then they try and get a job and if they aren't successful right off the bat they'll quickly be done for good. If programming to them is just a marketable skill and not a passion they might start to lose their value as a worker because coming out of school you are already at a disadvantage in terms of new skills and current practices because the academic environment is often far too slow to adapt to the industry.
I don't know. I have been programming for close to 20 years now, and even I get sick of it sometimes, and working a programming job is usually pretty shit. It is highly skilled labor, but it isn't creative really for the most part. You'll code monkey for a long time, and if you aren't a creative person that is able to demonstrate your ability to innovate you'll probably just be a code monkey for your entire career (and it'll be a much shorter one, if you aren't working in management by the time you are in your late 30s then you can forget about it).
Sorta rambling, but my advice is if you don't feel a real passion for programming then think about other options along the way, if you are doing it in school and going "this sucks" for any other reason than already knowing more than the professors then you probably should think about changing degrees.
Also as far as places that require a degree, those are usually the places that suck to work at. The big places, where you'll start out making 60-80k a year but you'll hate your life, you'll be working 60-70 hours a week, with no over time pay (especially if you get a job in WA or CA).
The places that lack the need for huge bureaucracy in something like an HR department are the fun places to work. The 20-100 employee places, where hiring is done by your manager. You might not make as much right off the bat, and the hours are probably going to be just as bad in a lot of cases, but you are going to be allowed to be more creative just by the size of the business alone.
Yeh no doubt, and I'll be looking into the differences between working for major companies and small businesses more when I'm closer to that stage of my career. With that said though, I have heard that there's some seriously braindead HR people around who do highly value that over actual skills. For instance a friend of a friend of mine said how she's been in charge of hiring 100s of people before for companies but she can't get a job at microsoft or ibm because she doesn't have a degree. Even if I end up working for small/medium businesses the majority of the time there still may be times when I want/need to work for companies that value that, maybe a new server system has been devised and I want to have on my resume that I've managed large numbers of machines. Regardless, it's only ~10% of my adult years and if I have that and I'm good then there won't be anything to hold me back, wheras if i don't have a degree it'll be something I'll always have to keep in mind.
I do also really like programming, although unfortunately i didn't really start when I was 12. That doesn't mean I don't really like it though. Thanks for the info, I'll keep it in mind. I just thought it'd be relevent to share my situation and my thoughts on CS degrees. I honestly expect it to be pretty fun.
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