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Posted by tehlord on Aug-16-2013 10:22:

That little and large one on top of each other down in the bottom right hand corner just isn't right. Sort it out.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-16-2013 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Hey L4C

Why you need so many hard drives?


why dont you get some too? it most surely increase sound quality.


Posted by echosystm on Aug-16-2013 14:07:

quote:
Originally posted by clay
why dont you get some too? it most surely increase sound quality.


As funny as it was, I think it's time to let go of the drives vs. sound quality joke now man.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-16-2013 15:49:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
That little and large one on top of each other down in the bottom right hand corner just isn't right. Sort it out.



these account for about 3/4 of them. Just temporary while I test all of them for errors. A week long job for 5 computers.


Posted by mysticalninja on Aug-18-2013 10:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
you have 2 pulses ? mother ******. This is the one synth i have been looking for every single day for the last 2 years.


wanna buy mine?


Posted by Raphie on Aug-18-2013 18:26:

long time, fresh update:

Replaced B&W 803s with TAD S-3EX
Replaced SVS PB12Plus with SVS SB13 ultra sub
added SSL X-Panda
added Class D audio 2x 300w 8 0hm SDS amp.
replaced DSI Tempest with Acidlabs Miami
sold HM2 Hammer
sold SSL Bus compressor

removed SSL X-patch (now redundant as the remaining outboard is hardwired to X-desk inserts






Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-18-2013 21:15:

should invest in a quality UPS.


Posted by Raphie on Aug-19-2013 07:00:

There are no power issues where i live.
The Furman is merely an IEC distribution box for 10 connections being switched on via 1 button in a handy package.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Aug-19-2013 16:00:

hey raphie, looks like great gear but i cant see how you can be creative in there? tiny space for yourself, no arm space, just a tiny pianoroll, high screen. with that amount of room space i really dont see why you dont have a proper working desk instead of that tiny little thing. you could put all the rack hardware above the screen(s) like a plane cockpit with instant access; now you have to crawl on the floor to adjust shit. id get a big desk, lower the screen and maybe get another one, put all the rackgear above the screens and have big space for your legs under the desk to sit confortable and get a bigger midikeyboard and lots of free desk space. this just dont look very creative or good workflowish. imo. i envy the opals though


Posted by Raphie on Aug-19-2013 16:50:

it works for me the picture skews the perspective a bit, it's a very large room


Posted by TranceLover007 on Aug-20-2013 20:06:

One step at the time lol - still in temporary stage but at least I can seat and produce - can't wait to finalize this studio

It is not as fancy as Raphie but temporarily works for me

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-21-2013 01:27:

quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja


WOW!, Looooooong time man. Welcome back. Where you been hiding?

Fuck, with Echosystem, MNinja, Lolo and Alanzo posting it's like the early 2000's up in here


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-22-2013 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
There are no power issues where i live.
The Furman is merely an IEC distribution box for 10 connections being switched on via 1 button in a handy package.



Actually, Richie is completely right: I very highly doubt that there are no power issues where you live.

Unless you built your house knowing that there was going to be a mastering studio in it, with class-A audio equipment in it, then you have all kinds of power issues going on.

You are actually one of the very few people on this forum who will be able to hear a noticeable difference, especially for what you're doing.

Unless you have a discrete power circuit just for your studio, which is completely separate from your main electricity circuits including a power conditioner between the main street feed and that discrete circuit then you most certainly have power issues that will affect your audio.

Also, every single piece of eqiupment (pro audio or not) is sending a dirty signal right back along those connections, meaning that even if you do have a discrete circuit after the fuses/breakers, all your kit, you lights, your screens, your phone chargers, (etc, etc) are all fucking up your power.

With kit like that, power conditioning is a must have. The furman distro does nothing apart from in line capacitance so while it will stop spikes, it's not removing any of the interferance that all those outlets and equipment are inducing in each other.

You really should invest in a few Furman power conditioners


Posted by alanzo on Aug-23-2013 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Fuck, with Echosystem, MNinja, Lolo and Alanzo posting it's like the early 2000's up in here


All we need is Mr Mystery, Etherium, rb2k1, and Luke Terry.

Party like it's a decade ago:


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-23-2013 05:31:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN


You really should invest in a few Furman power conditioners

i found quality UPS better bang for your buck.

they also give you some time if the power turns off so your hard rives don't get fucked up. It was the reason my one mac pro would turn off actually. Just a slight varience in the wave from a pure sine. mac pros apparently don't deal well with that,


Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-24-2013 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
i found quality UPS better bang for your buck.

they also give you some time if the power turns off so your hard rives don't get fucked up. It was the reason my one mac pro would turn off actually. Just a slight varience in the wave from a pure sine. mac pros apparently don't deal well with that,


But most UPS don't have any of the advanced power conditioning that Furman Conditioners have. The other thing is that battery will go after a couple of years. I have one here that is three years old and on it's last legs. They are great in the respect that if you get an outage you've got a few mins (up to 30 depending on power draw usually) to save your shit and power down safely, but unfortunately, that can turn in to seconds if you have heavy drawing equipment like class-A poweramps etc.


Posted by Raphie on Aug-24-2013 06:58:

UPS sound dull basswise, it sucks the life right out of music
I'be had a Powerplant http://www.psaudio.com/products/pow...ower-on-demand/ but my system sounds better without.

for lightning we have Insurance and spikes and brownouts like the flakey 110v issues in the US are unheard of in the Netherlands
we have clean stable 220v grounded power available in 16amp groups
i've put my studio on a seperate group, but sharing the systems ground, which is fine as my noisefloor is extremly low
and i have no inteference from fridges, airco's etc on other groups


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-24-2013 12:43:

That is ridiculious.

The reason a quality ups makes things better and cheaper is thAt they sell lots and have more money for r n d and proper assembly. This stuff you metion is hifi snake oil.

you can buy a metal pipe for 10$. Same metal pipe sold by Gibraltar for drums wil cost 100. Computers are by far the most sensitive to power surges brownouts. and that is why a good ups is cheaper and more reliable than pretty much all that boutique stuff.

And eu uses 220. and NA Is 120. It makes no difference. The stability is what counts. You aren't doubling anything.

Sad, I mean you really know nothing about power. 16 a means nothing. I run 3 20 a circuits which would be just as good a a 5 a circuit if that is all you draw.


Posted by Raphie on Aug-24-2013 13:44:

L4C, you are drawing conclusions on my behalf now? never said anything about double being better etc etc?

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
That is ridiculious.

The reason a quality ups makes things better and cheaper is thAt they sell lots and have more money for r n d and proper assembly. This stuff you metion is hifi snake oil.

you can buy a metal pipe for 10$. Same metal pipe sold by Gibraltar for drums wil cost 100. Computers are by far the most sensitive to power surges brownouts. and that is why a good ups is cheaper and more reliable than pretty much all that boutique stuff.

And eu uses 220. and NA Is 120. It makes no difference. The stability is what counts. You aren't doubling anything.

Sad, I mean you really know nothing about power. 16 a means nothing. I run 3 20 a circuits which would be just as good a a 5 a circuit if that is all you draw.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-24-2013 14:01:

the 110v which is actually about 117v is no worse than 220v. The USA and NA has a beter electrical infrastructure overall.

have you actually measured your power with the proper tools.

And come on , UPS and bass response. sigh


Posted by Storyteller on Aug-24-2013 16:12:

Got to hand it to Raphie here. Power outage or surges are rarer than spotting a wild koala bear here in NL. The thing on UPS+sound quality seems farfetched imo, but who am I to judge what he perceives.

Just be sure that insurance is good Raphie, pro-audio gear is often not covered by regular insurance for fire/lightning/water damages etc


Posted by echosystm on Aug-25-2013 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
UPS sound dull basswise, it sucks the life right out of music


Wat.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
But most UPS don't have any of the advanced power conditioning that Furman Conditioners have.


I think a UPS is OK if you want some peace of mind that peaks are getting smoothed out or have some power issues in your house. However, with this Furman stuff, we're talking about hardcore diminishing returns. Power quality in first world countries is insane. If the power supply that came with your electronics can't handle the tolerances of your electricity supply, then it is a shitty power supply, you have issues in your house or you accidentally live in Cambodia.

I'd love to know what "advanced power conditioning" means. As far as I'm concerned, it's just a capacitor. A UPS is just an even bigger capacitor. It would not surprise me at all if your average UPS actually uses better quality components, due to economies of scale. APC could buy 1,000 solid caps for the price that Furman buys 10 electrolytic caps. I think L4C is on the money.


Posted by Raphie on Aug-25-2013 08:59:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Wat.



I think a UPS is OK if you want some peace of mind that peaks are getting smoothed out or have some power issues in your house. However, with this Furman stuff, we're talking about hardcore diminishing returns. Power quality in first world countries is insane. If the power supply that came with your electronics can't handle the tolerances of your electricity supply, then it is a shitty power supply, you have issues in your house or you accidentally live in Cambodia.
There you go, my perspective exactly


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-26-2013 01:45:

bad power is the main reason computers and electronics fail. A little surge is all it takes to blow a capacitor. computers are even more vulnerable.

rare ? sure
are hardrive crashes rare ?
i had 3 drives fail out of 100

was the loss worth not spending 500 - 1000 on a UPS. you have the money. It is a no brainer

And surge protectors are a joke.


Posted by Raphie on Aug-26-2013 06:27:

but then again i bought the furmans just for cable management and easy on/off not for surge protection or filtering.

data should be secured by backups I don't understand how you even are willing to play with 20 external harddrives.

get pro like i did: buy a 10 bay nas run a mirrored raid5 or higher and sync it daily with a cloud storage service.

got 20TB mirrored in to raid 5 sets and those get synced daily with my cloud storage.

stop fucking around with extenral hardrives, it's amateur and lame.


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