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Posted by TranceGiant on Nov-06-2002 20:07:

Read This! Da Book Recommendations Thread inda Houze..

Sorry for the Ali G. accent.

Anyway, inspired by Nadi's desire for good Nietzsche stuff I had the idea of opening a thread where all of you Intellectuals could share and reommend books which you consider special and unique, books that have had a great impact on you and that helped shaping certain attitudes of yours and your world view in general.
So.....what are in your opnion must-reads in the fields of politics, economy, arts and culture, philosopy etc....You can name novels, too!


Posted by SpykeChyld on Nov-06-2002 20:29:

Fucking Awesome idea.

For plotical books...Read "Jihad vs. McWorld"...Excellent book about how our Democracy is being threatened in opposite ways by opposite forces.


Also, I was wondering...Does anyone have any deep Philosophical books? I don't read much at all, but I may if I had something interesting to read.


Posted by Izzy on Nov-07-2002 05:03:

The Prince - a great book on politics and governing over the people... really revolutionaty for its time
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...0109784-4808169


Posted by trancaholic on Nov-07-2002 06:27:

David Deutsch's "The fabric of reality", is a really well written book on how four theories can be combined into one which explains *everything*. I do not agree on all that its points, but DD is a fantastic writer and some of the chapters (for instance one about time travel - and why it imposes no paradoxes) really moved my perception of the world.

Apart from that I would recommend Alain De Botton's "The consolations of philosophy", which is a little book listing exactly what its title implies. A fast read with lots of fun and heartening comments.

Other than that there are philosophical introductions that I read earlier in my life that I thought was good (e.g. Donald Pallmer's "Looking at philosophy"), but the best book for this purpose must have been "Sophie's world" (can't remember the authors name). It's a novel, and, besides introducing some of the main western philosophers and their ideas, it includes a litterary twist I've never encountered before. It totally blew me away.


Posted by CortexBomb on Nov-07-2002 06:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Izzy
The Prince - a great book on politics and governing over the people... really revolutionaty for its time


Ugh, me hates Machiavelli...damn him and his "ends justify the means" bullshite

Definitely is an essential philosophical work though...

A couple fictional works that I'd recommend:

- Crime & Punishment by Doestoevsky.

Classic that asked "Why not murder?" Doestoevsky's answer at the end doesn't ring true for a non-Christian, but it stands as a deep and interesting novel, one of my faves.

- 1984 by Orwell, Brave New World by Huxley, Fahrenheit 451 by Bradbury.

Essential stories about future "negative" utopias...with all too many shades of our current world in them.

And a book that I haven't read but can certainly recommend (since the fellow who wrote it is my favourite philosophy teacher) is:

Meditations for Spiritual Misfits by Robert Badra.

It's a short work, but Badra has a very interesting take on life (An ex-monk, ex-priest, who's currently a Christian *and* a Buddhist, very open to other religions, and thinks all are equally valid, just different expressions of the same thing) and flared my interest in philosophy again, so I can definitely recommend this book; though it's out of print...


Posted by ftnb on Nov-07-2002 15:27:

Exclamation

quote:
Fahrenheit 451 by Bradbury.
now this book is truly great.

I know this is going to sound lame with all the LOTR hype going about, but its not like i just watched the movie and said 'oohh ahh elves! oohh let me go find that book' ...NO, not at all, but read the silmarillion and the lost tales and his other works that are not so popular, because they are his best works.

The only other novels i would say that are a must read, IMO, is the wheel of time trilogy, just because of the fact that it is such a damn good fantasy trilogy (by robert jordan)...and Raise High the Roofbeam Carpenters, and Franny & Zooey...(J.D salinger).

these are probably my favorite books of all time...they dont really have tooooooooo much to do with politics and or philosophy (somewhat yes)...but they are nevertheless good books.

peace,

-b


Posted by IronDragon on Nov-07-2002 16:34:

Ayn Rand-Atlas Shrugged


Posted by Sarcoman on Nov-09-2002 00:04:

Bibliophiles

Ahhh... cool thread.

Intriguing book:

Steal this Book - Abbie Hoffman ... Here is an excerpt from Amazon that talks about the book.
In 1970, Abbie Hoffman conceived the idea for his most ambitious book project yet. He had begun criss-crossing the country, ferreting out alternative ways of getting along in America--some illegal, but most of them having to do with survival techniques. Steal This Book captures the spirit of those years, describing actions and techniques that were already in use in all 50 states.

We - Yevgeny Zamyatin (this is the book that inspired Orwell to write 1984, short book ~115 pages, but very good).

Communist Manifesto -Karl Marx

Animal Farm - George Orwell

Clockwork Orange - Anthony Burgess

Book of Happiness: A Handbook for Living - His holiness the Dalai Lama

Catch 22 - Joseph Heller - One of the best reads I have had the pleasure of reading .... awesome.

Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger ... Salingers writing style is amazing, very easy to read... Most of the time when a book is easy to read (like a micheal crichton book for eg), i feel like i wasted time. Salingers book made me feel satisfied in the story.

A book of five rings - Miyamoto Musashi (havent read this one yet, but I plan to soon)

Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad - great book.. saw the movie first (Apocalypse Now --- for those of you who have been living under a rock), and loved it. The book was great as well.


Posted by venomX on Nov-09-2002 00:50:

well this one changed and consolidated some of my views in life (i have it in spanish so i dont know if the title is translated like this)
Jesus Lived in India - Holger Kersten. very good book with solid facts that state that Jesus did not die on the cross and died of old age in india

also anything by richard bach, gabriel garcia marquez (really good tho he writes in spanish dont know if there are any tranlsations) oh and anything by kalil gibran and these one the art of loving - erich fromm.

well that's it also would like to add that sophie's world - jostein gaarder is a very good introduction to philosophy and is very recommended


Posted by JohnSmith on Nov-09-2002 02:23:

Sadly, i haven't read many books

I was big time into literature in higschool, but mostly fiction. the college came, and away went my time.

now, i mostly just read on the web. I have several books inline to read though, some fiction some fact, including some of the ones listed above, especially 1984.

But, one book i would reccomend to anyone is "The Life Era" by Eric Chaisson. Truly remarkable book that changed my life. It's quite math and physics heavy, but a good read even if you don't understand all the equations. Which even with a strong math background, 4 years of college, and 3 years of computer programming, i didn't fully grasp. Just pick it up and read it, believe me.

Also, "A Brief History of Time" by Steven Hawkings is excellent, also in the physics realm.

Here are some good quotes from that book:
http://www.zentraveler.com/FavoriteArt/Time.htm

Also, "Billions and Billions" by Carl Sagan, a book i always THOUGHT was about astronomy, but is actually not entirely, it is a collection of essays on a variety of subjects, including but not limited to the cold war, and abortion. Those are the only chapters i have read, but i'd love to finish it.


Posted by biznology on Nov-09-2002 02:42:

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
Sadly, i haven't read many books

...


haha know what thats like!

one that is excellent for world affairs is:

The Lexus and the Olive Tree by Thomas L. Friedman

this quote from Amazon sums it up nicely:
quote:
Amazon.com
One day in 1992, Thomas Friedman toured a Lexus factory in Japan and marveled at the robots that put the luxury cars together. That evening, as he ate sushi on a Japanese bullet train, he read a story about yet another Middle East squabble between Palestinians and Israelis. And it hit him: Half the world was lusting after those Lexuses, or at least the brilliant technology that made them possible, and the other half was fighting over who owned which olive tree.


excellent reading! late|


Posted by .montecarlo. on Nov-09-2002 03:17:

Read This! meep meep

"l'etranger" (in french)
"the stranger" (translated to english)
by albert camus
- kind of an intro to existentialism, great book! LINK

"the rogue primate"
by john livingston

quote:
from amazon.com
Rogue Primate: An Exploration of Human Domestication is a provocative book wherein John Livingston challenges most conventional ideas about the relationship between humans and the natural world.

An award-winning study of the relationship of humans to nature argues that humans have become so domesticated by and dependent on technology they can no longer truly relate to nature and are more prone to damage their environment


great idea, i've been looking for some good reccomendations


Posted by AnotherWay83 on Nov-10-2002 08:43:

"body of secrets" by james bamford

"germs" by judith miller, et al.


Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Nov-11-2002 00:18:

Gerry Spence - From Freedom to Slavery (great political book, very insightful)

Harper's and Atlantic Monthly - good magazines

Nietzshe - On Morality of Good and Evil

Jiddu Krishnamurti - The Awakening of Intelligence

Alan Watts - The Book

Bertrand Russel - The Problems of Philosophy

James Allen - As a Man Thinketh

Goerge Orwell - The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius

Dhammapada


Posted by victor on Nov-12-2002 08:01:

Big Ears

Richard Bach - Illusions

and Richard Bach - Jonathan Livingston Seagull

cheers mate... these will trip you out for sure... but if you read them atleast 4 or 5 times you'd understand wot the point is...


Posted by ehcsztein on Nov-12-2002 22:30:

my additions to the list...

"the greening of america" - charles a reich
"finite and infinte games" - james p carse
"sacred dimensions of time and space" tarthang tulku
"observations on the feeling of beauty and the sublime" - kant
"johnny got his gun" - dalton trumbo


Posted by zarathustra on Nov-17-2002 19:45:

Fyodor Dostoevsky - Crime and Punishment

Superb piece of writing. Explores the idea: can murder be justified? It is a very well written book. It not only has philosophical merit but is generally just a very gripping and entertaining read.


George Orwell - Animal Farm

One of my favourite books. I found it really funny for one. Easy and quick to read and to the point. Not just an allegory for the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany but a general analogy of how, despite good intentions, a state can become totalitarian.


Albert Camus - L'etranger

Another gripping tale. This one explores ideas about morality and even death penalty issues. I find it resembles Mordecai Richler - The Incomparable Atuk in some of its themes.

That's all I'm going to put down for now.


Posted by skaborough fats on Nov-22-2002 00:49:

If you're looking for phliosophy then start with "The Minds Eye". The book is a collection of papers, essays and stories all dealing with cogniscience and duality (is the mind and body connected or seperate). I can't remember who is the 'author'/editor but every big book store I've been in has a copy.

My personal, all time favourite book is "The Selfish Gene", by Richard Dawkins. This is a book about evolution and associated topics. Why would a book about evolution be my favourite you ask? This book allowed me to become an athiest. The problem with being athiest is you have to develop on you own all those things that religion normally hands you. This book was where I started.

"Gun, Germs & Steel", by... I can't remember the author (I think it's Jerod Diamond, or something like that) and my friends has my copy, but the book is well known. It was on the New York Times best seller list for quite a while. It traces the development of the human species over the past few thousand years. Very accessable to all readers.

For philosophy... I'd read Heigel (not too sure if I spelled that right, it's pronounced Hegal... sorry but it's been a while since I've read his stuff). Marxs and many others developed their theories based on his work. His dialectic/synthesis process is a very good starting point.

Finally... anything by Terry Prachet, but especially "Bad Omens". "Bad Omens" is one of the funniest books I've ever read, hands down. It's all about the end of the world. Really, really funny stuff with dry British wit.

Cheers,
Fats


Posted by PeacefulWarrior on Nov-29-2002 02:24:

Benjamin Hoff - The Tao of Pooh


Posted by Time2Burn on Nov-29-2002 16:47:

No Logo - Naomi Klien

The anti-globalization movement's "bible". Looks at how commercialism and capitalistic intensions effect the social fabric of our world.

The Celestine Prophecy - James Refield.

A spitiual Journey that helps put perspective in life.


Posted by drewfactor on Nov-29-2002 20:19:

Robert M Pirsig - Zen and the Art of Motorcylce maintainence.

A must read! Especially if you're interested in Post modernist philosophy.

Dostoevsky - Crime and Punishment

Amazing..introduces existentialist issues into an interesting story.


Posted by AcerRacer on Dec-03-2002 19:18:

There are almost too many to list, so I'll try to keep it short.

The Stranger and A Happy Death by Albert Camus
Atlas Shrugged and Capitalism: the Unknown Ideal by Ayn Rand
Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
On Liberty by JS Mill
2nd Treatise of the Government by John Locke
Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
The Masterpiece by Emile Zola
Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky
"The Wasteland" by TS Eliot
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
The Sun Also Rises by Hemmingway

Well, I guess i've done enough damage... for now.


Posted by Illusion on Dec-04-2002 12:45:

"The Mind In The Making" by James Harvey Robinson
This one is a must. It's from the thikers library. Hard book to find.

The Third Wave
&
Power Shift
By Alvin Tofler


Posted by Illusion on Dec-04-2002 12:47:

And oh ANYTHING you can find by Noam Chomsky. books, audio on the net, documents. Anything!


Posted by TranceGiant on Dec-04-2002 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Illusion
And oh ANYTHING you can find by Noam Chomsky. books, audio on the net, documents. Anything!


Omg please, no!
Just got his newest book as a Chanukka present , I changed it.


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