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Originally posted by Innocence Lost ffs, i got your point now stfu.

I'm going to quote this in a few days when you post another intro.

You're not obliged to comment. You could easily ignore his wips/intros/whatever and carry on.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation You're not obliged to comment.

Nor are you.

Someone post a NEW WIP godamnit.

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost Someone post a NEW WIP godamnit.

There's an odd thing happening with your lead melody there. To me, when you have the sustain/release set high, it feels like it's slightly out of time. At 5:00 when you dial it back to being more of a pluck it works though, and then lengthening it through the build seems to bring it back into time.

I doubt it's actually out of time, it just sounds that way to my ears for some reason.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation

The intro is really cool in this one. It has this strange mystic vibe. But then the saw lead comes in and takes away that mood. I'd love to hear something softer in its place.

Put this together somewhat quickly and hardly finished.
This is actually going to be a remix for a song called Beautiful Love by Sean Norvis. Thoughts greatly appreciated.t

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[b]Originally posted by deegee[i][b] The vocals on that track of yours... I don't know how much I [i]like them, but she has a very interesting vocal quality. You've got some nice high arpy stuff in the background that I really do like, though. The, what's the word... three-note descant that's reminiscent--in a much better way--of Children.

I have to agree with you, this vox sample is quite difficult to work with

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery The intro is really cool in this one. It has this strange mystic vibe. But then the saw lead comes in and takes away that mood. I'd love to hear something softer in its place.

Curios you say that cause it was quite a dilemma for me as well. In fact I was thinking exactly the same when working on it. A softer lead with some delays spread wide open.

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Originally posted by scorpradio Put this together somewhat quickly and hardly finished. This is actually going to be a remix for a song called Beautiful Love by Sean Norvis. Thoughts greatly appreciated.t I have to agree with you, this vox sample is quite difficult to work with

Did you get a dry vocal or you use one with FX already on it - there is some amount of (I guess) unwonted effect picking through this vocal.

Darek

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Originally posted by scorpradio Put this together somewhat quickly and hardly finished. This is actually going to be a remix for a song called Beautiful Love by Sean Norvis. Thoughts greatly appreciated.t I have to agree with you, this vox sample is quite difficult to work with

I like this vocal apart from the usual clicks and pops which you will no doubt remove, but also her over accentuated out breath at the end of the words / passages. If it were me I'd try and reduce those with volume automation as that heavy out sign thing is classic crooner cheese you would hear from a wedding singer at a 3* venue or from a cruise ship singer.

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Originally posted by scorpradio Put this together somewhat quickly and hardly finished. This is actually going to be a remix for a song called Beautiful Love by Sean Norvis. Thoughts greatly appreciated.t

I like the direction this is going. I agree with Richard that the vox could use a little automation work here and there. They also sound way compressed, which could be causing/accentuating the loudness of the breaths, but that may be the way the stems were processed when you got them? The timing is a little rigid for the song, too - the fills are pretty static, oompah bass, etc.

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Originally posted by TranceElevation

That's an interesting lead part - when it first came in, I didn't like it, but after a few repetitions, it really stuck with me. Personally, I like the bright saw sound, but I see Mystery's point - it might work a bit better in the context of the darker vibe if you filtered some of the high end off.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Did you get a dry vocal or you use one with FX already on it - there is some amount of (I guess) unwonted effect picking through this vocal. Darek

Thanks guys for the replies...
The vocal stem is a dry one that I added delay and verb to. Listening to the dry stem more and more I am convinced that it was not done so well. When a verse is sung it fades to black quickly as if she did multiple takes instead of singing through. Her enunciation seems to be the problem as well.
You guys mentioned automation, how on earth can I get rid of this?
Darek, thanks for that tutorial vid, very helpful but did not remedy anything on the track as I zoomed in as tight as I could.
If anything, it seemed to take away from the vocal because it was so dry it's noticeable.

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Originally posted by scorpradio

Really like the sound selection there. It feels appropriate for the track. Two things didn't convince though. That Room verb on the vocal is too obvious. It contrasts with the surrounding elements which are wide and big. It kinda feels disconnected from the rest. Of course from a mixing perspective that might be a choice you have to make, but imo it could be improved.

The other thing is the drop. That build is really beautiful and rich. It raises the bar too much. It's really great and dramatic, but the drop isn't on par with the build. In comparison it feels weak. That's a common problem when making an important build, not being able to match the expectation you created.

But overall an enjoyable piece. Not my favorite style, but have to say pleasant to listen to.

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Originally posted by cryophonik That's an interesting lead part - when it first came in, I didn't like it, but after a few repetitions, it really stuck with me. Personally, I like the bright saw sound, but I see Mystery's point - it might work a bit better in the context of the darker vibe if you filtered some of the high end off.

As mentioned previously it was quite a dilemma. It took me some time to decide whether to go with a softer or more aggressive lead. I went with the latter, but the idea about a softer version is still there. That's why it's a wip.

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Originally posted by scorpradio Thanks guys for the replies... The vocal stem is a dry one that I added delay and verb to. Listening to the dry stem more and more I am convinced that it was not done so well. When a verse is sung it fades to black quickly as if she did multiple takes instead of singing through. Her enunciation seems to be the problem as well. You guys mentioned automation, how on earth can I get rid of this? Darek, thanks for that tutorial vid, very helpful but did not remedy anything on the track as I zoomed in as tight as I could. If anything, it seemed to take away from the vocal because it was so dry it's noticeable.

Can you post (if possible) this vocal by itself (at least like 30 or so seconds) so I/we could analyze the condition of it and recommend potentially some solution on how to fix it.

Darek

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Originally posted by TranceElevation

I like the saw lead when it's getting filtered in but I really don't know how I feel about it once it's totally open. I think the entrance into the break needs to be more fluid too, the lead sorta just stops after being filtered out and doesn't melt into it.

The build after the break is my favourite part but it's a little long, and I imagine it's going to be followed by another drop when you're done, making the track pretty lengthy.

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Originally posted by scorpradio Put this together somewhat quickly and hardly finished. This is actually going to be a remix for a song called Beautiful Love by Sean Norvis. Thoughts greatly appreciated.t I have to agree with you, this vox sample is quite difficult to work with

The vocals have some timing things you could probably fix easily. I really like the build up quite a bit, and the entrance into the drop, but the actual drop itself seems totally alien to it. That snare stutter into it makes it sound like it's going to be a lot more driving and high energy than it winds up being IMO.



This is actually an older track by me that I decided to revisit to get it to be release quality. I re-recorded the verse and shortened the track by like 3 minutes. Worked out pretty well. Still have some work to do on the vocals I think but yeah!

Seandroid, I definitely prefer your machine sex music (I still want Illicit on my fucking iPod), but this is still good. Much more commercial than what you usually post here, but I could easily see Avicii or someone similar sliding this into a set. It has big stadium EDM written all over it. Hey Garrix, eat your heart out.

What I'm saying is this may not reach the artistic level you've hit in other tracks you've posted here (especially Illicit which I want on my iPod) but it could make you a sweet wad of cash, especially if you release Illicit (which I want on my iPod) as the B-side.

ps I want Illicit on my iPod.

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Originally posted by deegee Seandroid, I definitely prefer your machine sex music (I still want Illicit on my fucking iPod), but this is still good. Much more commercial than what you usually post here, but I could easily see Avicii or someone similar sliding this into a set. It has big stadium EDM written all over it. Hey Garrix, eat your heart out. What I'm saying is this may not reach the artistic level you've hit in other tracks you've posted here (especially Illicit which I want on my iPod) but it could make you a sweet wad of cash, especially if you release Illicit (which I want on my iPod) as the B-side. ps I want Illicit on my iPod.

Yeah, that was intentionally so for sure. It's more commercial in structure now than it was to begin with, actually.

And that day will come 😛 I have to find a label willing to release it that I think is worth it.

Please PM me on that day--Illicit is a song I'd happily pay for.

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Originally posted by Seandroid I like the saw lead when it's getting filtered in but I really don't know how I feel about it once it's totally open. I think the entrance into the break needs to be more fluid too, the lead sorta just stops after being filtered out and doesn't melt into it. The build after the break is my favourite part but it's a little long, and I imagine it's going to be followed by another drop when you're done, making the track pretty lengthy. The vocals have some timing things you could probably fix easily. I really like the build up quite a bit, and the entrance into the drop, but the actual drop itself seems totally alien to it. That snare stutter into it makes it sound like it's going to be a lot more driving and high energy than it winds up being IMO. This is actually an older track by me that I decided to revisit to get it to be release quality. I re-recorded the verse and shortened the track by like 3 minutes. Worked out pretty well. Still have some work to do on the vocals I think but yeah!

Great song, is that you singing? Singers tone really suits the song.
I listened a few times and the only thing I wanted to hear with more oomph at some stage was the "its in my heart" hook section. I kept hearing it at some stage with everything dropeed out and just the vocals with a big ass stereo synth playing sustained chords, and maybe a string section with it. awesome work!

Dumb question, what genre would this song fall under?

Hey guys,

I staretd to make some changes today, any feedback again is appreciated. Im thinking, maybe I should ditch the intro and somehow have a new intro mroe related to the 16th bass line that comes in. i dunno. Thanks again,

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Originally posted by madmuso Great song, is that you singing? Singers tone really suits the song. I listened a few times and the only thing I wanted to hear with more oomph at some stage was the "its in my heart" hook section. I kept hearing it at some stage with everything dropeed out and just the vocals with a big ass stereo synth playing sustained chords, and maybe a string section with it. awesome work! Dumb question, what genre would this song fall under?

Yup! That's me singing. I still have some work to do, I'm actually thinking of re-recording some of the chorus vocals as well. I'll check out your tune when I get home!

I'd just call it electro house but you could also probably call it big room.

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Originally posted by madmuso Hey guys, I staretd to make some changes today, any feedback again is appreciated. Im thinking, maybe I should ditch the intro and somehow have a new intro mroe related to the 16th bass line that comes in. i dunno. Thanks again,

Well, this is my first listen and I say I do like the production of the song. I also like your arrangement of tones.
The issue I am having is that it almost feels like it is two different songs melded to mix only because of the bpm.
If you ask me...ditch anything you have before 2:09. After that, what you have sounds really good man and imho the "true" song.

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