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Posted by counterfeiter on May-17-2010 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Existo22
Hey man are you actually building this yourself or have you hired a company?


I'm building it myself. I've done a shitload of research on materials, and I'm almost done.


Posted by Zak McKracken on May-17-2010 10:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Alphadelta
PS. Does anyone else have issues with neighbours - it's a MASSIVE creative block for me waiting for the next whack on the cardboard walls!!

YES!


Posted by EddieZilker on May-17-2010 14:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Alphadelta

PS. Does anyone else have issues with neighbours - it's a MASSIVE creative block for me waiting for the next whack on the cardboard walls!!


I've got neighbors and a thumper, up here in my apt. I have a relatively simple policy - use headphones before 11:00 am and after 9:30 pm (10:30 pm or so on Fridays and Saturdays). Knock-on-wood - I haven't had any issues with any of my neighbors, yet.


Posted by Alphadelta on May-17-2010 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
I've got neighbors and a thumper, up here in my apt. I have a relatively simple policy - use headphones before 11:00 am and after 9:30 pm (10:30 pm or so on Fridays and Saturdays). Knock-on-wood - I haven't had any issues with any of my neighbors, yet.


I'm astonished - your policy is exactly the same as mine, to the minute... and has been observed strictly for 3 years! They usually just give me a bit of the eye, or let their yappy dog out at midnight as payback.. But what got them on Saturday was the CONSTANT auditioning of suitable kickdrums for 4 hours! I must admit, I would have gone mental after 2....!


Posted by DJ RANN on May-17-2010 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by counterfeiter
I'm building it myself. I've done a shitload of research on materials, and I'm almost done.


Nice job, and I'm seriously impressed you built it yourself - just one question: did you decouple the drywall from the stud? (green glue, joist tape etc.?)

If noise transfer to other people is a problem and you haven't, you might want to think about double drywalling. Pain to do but makes a huge difference.....


Posted by counterfeiter on May-18-2010 00:03:

I'm a handy guy and I have some experience building.

The electrical was done by a friend of mine and I have electrical outlets every 4' and my electrical pannel is protected by a "surge supressor". The room is also wired for surround sound, coax and CAT-5E (in multiple locations).

The 5/8" drywall is "decoupeled" with resiliant channel the joists and stud cavities are packed with Roxul Safe & Sound.

I did my research and I'm using 5/8" drywall (which is denser than the standard 1/2" drywall). 5/8" drywall is also considered "fire-code" which buys you another few minutes in case of a fire.
The Roxul also helps.

Double 1/2" drywall with greenglue would be taking it one step further but is significantly more expensive. My ceiling height is 6 1/2' and I want to preserve as much height as possible because I'm going to be installing a floating laminate floor.

I've done a lot of research regarding materials and I did what was in my budget. The sky is the limit when it comes to making a "sound proof" room.
So far I am very impressed with the how quiet the room is.


Posted by DJ RANN on May-18-2010 02:27:

I will stfu then.

Honestly, you've got all your materials and techniques right there - you should be very proud. I just finished an acoustics install (commercial) and I wish they had the allowed resources and went as far as you have. Resiliant channel is one of the best things you can do to accelerate the effect of isolation. I just bought 17 boxes of auralex 2" thick mineral. This is the most dense acoustic batt I have ever come across (8lbs+ per cubic foot).

know exactly what you mean about cost vs. soundproofing - it can get really expensive incredibly quickly.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on May-18-2010 02:51:

don't you want a bit of ambiance ? I mean a totally dead room is just creepy.


Posted by DJ RANN on May-18-2010 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
don't you want a bit of ambiance ? I mean a totally dead room is just creepy.


I hear you but it's a luxury when your top priority to stop the noise from the busses outside coming in or the neighbors thumping on your wall.

Also in a control room (rather than in a rec room which I can;t stand without some feel or ambiance), I generally like it pretty dead.


Posted by counterfeiter on May-18-2010 21:30:

the whole point is to prevent sound from coming in or out of the room.

If you're inside the room it won't sound "dead". if you "over-treat" the walls with wall treatments that will give it a "dead" feeling.
You need to have some reverb.
After I put the insulation up the room was completely dead, footsteps sound weird without a bit of echo, once the drywall went up it went back to normal.


Posted by alanzo on Jun-15-2010 03:28:

Yayy new pix of the studio. Just moved into a new place and finally set up all my gear. I think it's about right now. Looking forward to starting a new track later this week or maybe even tomorrow ... I have one that I've been working on for months but it's not going anywhere so I'm going to put it down for a while.





Something every studio should have ... a keg fridge. Serving all homebrewed beer -- there's a lager fermenting in there now.


Posted by EddieZilker on Jun-15-2010 03:33:

That's totally sweet, Alanzo.


Posted by Sushipunk on Jun-15-2010 03:37:

LOL at the home brew setup

Looks good though, nice one.


Posted by Eric J on Jun-15-2010 03:40:

Nice.

Hey, I noticed that you are using a MOTU 24IO for an audio interface. I have the same monitors as you do, and I you may want to consider upgrading your D/A conversion as soon as possible. With the amount of outboard you are using, it would be a worthy investment.

I had the 24IO for a while and upgraded to the 2408 mk3. It was a noticeable improvement at the time, but then I upgraded to Apogee converters and it made a massive difference, especially with the Focals. Your I/O requirements are much greater than mine are, but if you do get the opportunity, you may want to look into getting better D/A and A/D as well. I can tell you from experience, that you won't regret it.

I'm still using the 2408 for the digital inputs and PCI interface right now, but I'm doing all my conversion through the Apogee unit, and its a huge difference.

I'm fixing to ditch the 2408 altogether for an Apogee Symphony System, paired up with the Rosetta 200 and an AD-16X, which should satisfy my conversion needs well into the future and give me a lot more channels coming in. Eventually, I want to ditch the Rosetta for a DA-16X and run it into a Dangerous LT for some analog summing.

Anyway, just a thought for you.


Posted by alanzo on Jun-15-2010 04:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Eric J
Nice.

Hey, I noticed that you are using a MOTU 24IO for an audio interface. I have the same monitors as you do, and I you may want to consider upgrading your D/A conversion as soon as possible. With the amount of outboard you are using, it would be a worthy investment.

I had the 24IO for a while and upgraded to the 2408 mk3. It was a noticeable improvement at the time, but then I upgraded to Apogee converters and it made a massive difference, especially with the Focals. Your I/O requirements are much greater than mine are, but if you do get the opportunity, you may want to look into getting better D/A and A/D as well. I can tell you from experience, that you won't regret it.

I'm still using the 2408 for the digital inputs and PCI interface right now, but I'm doing all my conversion through the Apogee unit, and its a huge difference.

I'm fixing to ditch the 2408 altogether for an Apogee Symphony System, paired up with the Rosetta 200 and an AD-16X, which should satisfy my conversion needs well into the future and give me a lot more channels coming in. Eventually, I want to ditch the Rosetta for a DA-16X and run it into a Dangerous LT for some analog summing.

Anyway, just a thought for you.


I have both a 24IO and a 2408 both the mk3. I'm using the S/PDIF output from the 2408 into an Apogee Mini-DAC (in the middle of the desk). I don't use the MOTUs for Digital => Analog, just Analog => Digital from my outboard synths.


Posted by Eric J on Jun-15-2010 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I have both a 24IO and a 2408 both the mk3. I'm using the S/PDIF output from the 2408 into an Apogee Mini-DAC (in the middle of the desk). I don't use the MOTUs for Digital => Analog, just Analog => Digital from my outboard synths.


Ahh, I see. Didn't see the Mini-DAC.


Posted by Final Call on Jun-16-2010 18:02:

here's mine!



planning on picking up a Lexicon Ionix U42S in the next couple of weeks as an interface.


Posted by kitphillips on Jun-17-2010 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I don't use the MOTUs for Digital => Analog, just Analog => Digital from my outboard synths.


surely that makes it worse than the other way around... I've always thought good quality conversion on the actually disk was more important, because you can always come back and remix later if you get a better output path, but its harder to re record stuff thats already committed.


Posted by alanzo on Jun-18-2010 14:32:

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
surely that makes it worse than the other way around... I've always thought good quality conversion on the actually disk was more important, because you can always come back and remix later if you get a better output path, but its harder to re record stuff thats already committed.


I suppose it is but a higher quality ADC for all my synth would cost A LOT of money.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-01-2010 19:08:


awesome isnt it. fucking shit. no one can work in those conditions.


Posted by cryophonik on Jul-01-2010 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by 19503

awesome isnt it. fucking shit. no one can work in those conditions.


That looks exactly like the studio I'll have when I'm on vacation next week.


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-01-2010 20:08:

well u said it. i get just as much done here as if i where on vacation.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jul-01-2010 22:31:

What happened palm? Where did the studio go?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Jul-02-2010 07:25:

well my studio was just a desk, monitors and a computer in the other end of the livingroom (behind the couch u see there). i still have all of it but the desk is put away temporarly to get room for a dinning-table. it didnt fit into the livingroom with a studiodesk really, it worked terrible when having friends over etc. i just gotta move and then everything will be fine again. lol. if u wonder what happened to all the gear i used to have, i sold it all, it did nothing for me lol. i much happier using software only.


Posted by mize on Jul-02-2010 16:38:


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