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Originally posted by aNYthing

What is your Maschine attached to, or is it just leaning on something? I've been thinking about a way to mount mine on an articulating arm or something so that I can have it at an angle like yours, move it around, etc.

Killer setup, btw!!!

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Originally posted by cryophonik What is your Maschine attached to, or is it just leaning on something? I've been thinking about a way to mount mine on an articulating arm or something so that I can have it at an angle like yours, move it around, etc. Killer setup, btw!!!

You'll never believe it... a $10 Fellowes Booklift Copyholder and a rubber sheet underneath to keep it from sliding/scratching the synth.



it's leaning against the desk - giving it extra sturdiness. Otherwise it wouldn't be much useful, as by itself it's somewhat flimsy...

thanks!

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Originally posted by aNYthing You'll never believe it... a $10 Fellowes Booklift Copyholder

That same idea crossed my mind once or twice! Is it pretty stable - stable enough that it doesn't bounce around when you're punching in drum patterns?

edit: nevermind - I just saw your edit regarding the flimsiness!

p.s. I think I sorta cyber-drooled all over your Jup-8 and Elka - sorry about that.

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Originally posted by cryophonik That same idea crossed my mind once or twice! Is it pretty stable - stable enough that it doesn't bounce around when you're punching in drum patterns? edit: nevermind - I just saw your edit regarding the flimsiness! p.s. I think I sorta cyber-drooled all over your Jup-8 and Elka - sorry about that.

Yeah, it's a shame - they need to come up with some sort of rack mounting kit and it'd be nice if they had a tilted LCD.

Here's another idea - have you tried using a laptop stand? that may work. There are tons of them and they are pretty sturdy.

and don't worry - I real-life-drool on them. If it makes you feel any better - neither one has MIDI, which really pisses me off because I wish I could hook them up for some awesome exchange of arp/sequencer patterns. While there's a kit for JP, the one for Synthex is even rarer than synth itself.

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Originally posted by aNYthing

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Originally posted by aNYthing Moving shit around, foam still not applied, synths mostly disconnected.... bummer. Tho, my fat bitches are getting along nicely

You are the man!
How long did it take u to get all that stuff?

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Originally posted by aNYthing Yeah, it's a shame - they need to come up with some sort of rack mounting kit and it'd be nice if they had a tilted LCD. Here's another idea - have you tried using a laptop stand? that may work. There are tons of them and they are pretty sturdy. and don't worry - I real-life-drool on them. If it makes you feel any better - neither one has MIDI, which really pisses me off because I wish I could hook them up for some awesome exchange of arp/sequencer patterns. While there's a kit for JP, the one for Synthex is even rarer than synth itself.

How long have you had the Synthex? Had any issues with it?

Nice setup. Makes me miss some of my old monster analog polys. Those aren't quite as easy to sneak in as say, my Buchla system. At least my fiance thinks the 200e and my other modulars were cheaper than any of my keyboards

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Originally posted by atxbigballer1 You are the man! How long did it take u to get all that stuff?

Hmm... I got my first synth about 10 years ago - it was an XP60... The Synthex - I hunted for one for about 5 years. At first, I saw few that went for $1800 and I thought it was crazy to pay that much. LOL Then, I saw them climb to $2400 and I was concerned. The next nice one was in France and it had MIDI and it sold for $3300 - I couldn't afford it at the time, even though I already accepted the fact that I'd never see one at that price again.

The one I had initially was listed on ebay a year ago, guy was asking $12,000. Yes. $12,000. Why? It is the very first synthex ever made - prototype. Has no serial, no synthex emblem up front and uses different set of Curtis chips, sounding quite different from the the other that succeded it. I spoke with the seller, who was in Greece about reducing his expectations and price but he wasn't ready to sell at that time.

I then waited for a year, ebay search running. One day, long after my search expired, I started googling synthex in hopes of finding some info and saw an ebay add pop up - this was same synth, same guy still selling it. Although, this time around price was $4000 and no reserve. I called him and convinced him to end the auction early - he agreed at... the asking price! $4000. NOw the challenge came - getting it to US. Took about a month, lots of calls, headache, and over $1200 in shipping costs. Finally, it arrived... but DOA. Another month looking for a repair shop - lucked out with EARS in NYC (highly recommended, btw). drove the synth there, another 4 weeks and I had a fully functioning Synthex, converted for US power. Drove it home and... it was again, DOA! Luckily, the time I spent online reading about synthex was not all in vein - I cracked the top open and re-seated the voice cards and BAM! It made the most amazing sound I ever wanted to hear

I've since played with it very little, taking care not to over use it. It is trully fantastic synth but I only have one issue - the sequencer, when activated, for some unknown reason transposes split section by +1. So, I've yet to fix that. Total cost - about $6300... if I was smarter, I would have bought it first time I saw one. but such is life... I personally don't regret it, even though it was darn expensive.

Jupiter 8 - thats my 3rd one. First one was DCB model with a converter, I sort of regret selling it cause I could have hooked it up to MIDI. I was jonesin for JP8 so, bought the 2nd one shortly thereafter. The 2nd was gorgeous:

but I had to fix it several times to the tune of $700 each time. At which point I couldn't afford to fix it anymore and had to sell before it broke again. If it wasn't for Armin's repair shop in NYC (STAY AWAY!) JP would have remained mostly flawless but his shop scratched the shit out of it, reducing it's value. In hind sight, itw as a bad choice to go there and I'll never go there again - it's a fucking dump and he's a fucking con artist, definitely not trust-worthy. I wouldn't trust him with my $20 casio anymore.

Anyway, I sold the 2nd one and was really regretting it. Again, by pure chance I found one in Rhode Island, about 350 miles away. I had to beg borrow and steal to get the money to pay for it - $5000 - yes, crazy I know.. but the synth is as flawless as they get, even more pristine than my 2nd one (knock knock knock). Even though it's first gen and it starts to drift every 15 minutes, it's still an amzazing synth in an unbelievable shape. So, my supermodels are my pride and joy and are part of the family now

Roland Jupiter 8

the Ferrari F40 of Synths

so beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=226OULR1dwo

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Originally posted by Kismet7 Roland Jupiter 8 the Ferrari F40 of Synths so beautiful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=226OULR1dwo

great shots of car, awful friggin music! ouch my ears!

...and I wouldn't go as far as calling JP8 an F40 of synths It's a great synth, no doubt but.... it is still somewhat limited by today's standards. It's got a personality and distinct sound but I wouldn't go as far as compare it with perhaps the greatest mechanical device and finest penis extension ever made.

Took a quick (really bad) shot of the modular wall. Mostly set up now, just missing the modcan A system, a few modules from the euro system, and 2 modules from the 200e that are out for repair.

Going to be ditching the desk and replacing it with a bookshelf type setup on the opposite wall with a shelf for each modular. The Wiard 300 system will be racked up in a custom rack above the euro setup (which contains quite a few Wiard modules in eurorack format).

Once I get that done, I'll be able to start digging stuff like the Prophet VS out of storage because I'll finally have somewhere to put it all again.

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Originally posted by palm somehow this looks really creative been thinking about some shelf thingy like that myself.

Thanks! I actually love this set up - keep in mind there are also sections under the desk - so I keep alot of junk in there. For around $300 for shelf + plastic bins (IKEA) and $150 Steel Case training desk I found at used office furniture store, I have a "work" area in a room too. The entire room is not that big - it's only 11' x 9' and every inch counts. Bonus points: because it sits directly against the opposite wall from my main music desk area, the shelf acts as a natural diffuser . I had to get creative with my computer stuff too. The XPS generates a ton of heat and when I close the door, the room becomes SAUNA-hot in a matter of minutes. So, the door you see behind main computer area actually leads to crawl space, where my computer rig is situated. I bought bunch of "over ethernet" extenders - for USB, for Video (VGA)/Kbd/Mouse and really long DVI-D cable (35') and will run it from crawl area to my "studio", resolving noise and heat issues. I'll post some pics when done.

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Originally posted by hexadecimal Took a quick (really bad) shot of the modular wall. Mostly set up now, just missing the modcan A system, a few modules from the euro system, and 2 modules from the 200e that are out for repair. Going to be ditching the desk and replacing it with a bookshelf type setup on the opposite wall with a shelf for each modular. The Wiard 300 system will be racked up in a custom rack above the euro setup (which contains quite a few Wiard modules in eurorack format). Once I get that done, I'll be able to start digging stuff like the Prophet VS out of storage because I'll finally have somewhere to put it all again.

holy fucking shit man!!! I respect anyone who uses modulars. Personally, I find them too intimidating. I saw an insane modular at EARS in NYC - they had it on loan from the owner who in exchange for loaning it to them for a year would get a repair for free. I'll post a pic I snapped later.

But here's how I see synth progression:

Samples + Acid --> Soft synth --> Rompler --> Virtual Analog/Analog --> Modular --> Reactor/Kyma/Absynth/NL Mod --> MaxMSP --> DIY synth

this thread (well not this, but the dj-booth-variant of it) got stickied in the djbooth, should we do the same? its always coming up again anyway?

Modulars aren't really intimidating at all, if you ignore the way they look. Certain things can be (the 200e has a pretty steep learning curve, especially if you haven't worked with modulars before). For the most part, unless you have absolutely no understanding of synth architecture, you'll be able to pick up the basics of using modular gear pretty quickly. It's all really straight forward, unless you get into really complex digital logic modules and other crazy shit, but I can't see anyone getting stuff like that for their first setup.

DIY stuff is easier than you'd think. There are plenty of resources out there that could guide even the most retarded of human beings (e.g. tiesto and armin fans) through a basic project.

I've never looked at it as a progression, though. Just different tools for different purposes. I'd never turn to one of my modulars if I wanted polyphonic pads, for example (unless I wanted to sample them for that purpose). That's what my microwave xt, andromeda, prophet vs, etc... are for. I'd also never turn to my Metasonix PT-1 if I wanted something to play in key (or stay within 2 octaves or so of "in tune").

Max/MSP never intimidated me much, but that's probably because I've been coding most of my life, and it just kind of made sense and forced my computer nerd and synth nerd sides to mesh and become one. I think the max for live idea was idiotic, though. There are going to be a lot of Ableton users scratching their heads after buying it, thinking it's just another instant gratification plugin.

Kyma is a great system. It would be a waste for most people, though. Lucky for the rest of us, those people usually end up selling their systems off cheap.

Synthex and Jupiter 8 <3 -- you should get an Andromeda and ditch the Virus.

Or just ditch the Virus, be happy with two of the nicest analog polysynths ever made, and put the money into as many spare parts as you can find for them, so you can continue to be happy with them.

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Originally posted by hexadecimal Or just ditch the Virus, be happy with two of the nicest analog polysynths ever made, and put the money into as many spare parts as you can find for them, so you can continue to be happy with them.

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Originally posted by alanzo Synthex and Jupiter 8 <3 -- you should get an Andromeda and ditch the Virus.

What's up with all the virus hatin? I like my TI. Although I do agree that soft synths are catching up with Virus. It's hard to justify keeping the virus if you're not a gigging/live musician when you have so many other synths and soft synths are pretty darn good.

though the thought did cross my mind. however, I always end up getting virus again, as I like it's sound A LOT... and I'm pretty comfortable using it these days.

BTW, I had Andromeda and Matrix 12 before - which I both sold and I'll be honest, I don't really miss them. Andromeda was perhaps the most overrated of all synths I ever owned. And yes, I did not use just presets but it just didn't do anything for me. It took TOOO FUCKING LONG to get it to sound different from everything else. It has the most bland sound and I doubt anyone could ever ID it in a mix. You can hear Virus or Moog or Jupiter or Elka and say - THIS IS such and such synth. With Andromeda it lacked it's own characters and it was perhaps the most digital sounding analog I ever played with.

Speaking of overrated synths, I also had Prophet VS, Prophet 08, DSI MEK, and DSI PEK which I also sold swearing to never purchase another sequential or DSI gear again, Pro 5 included... no offense.. just didn't do anything at all for me.

My 2 next dream synths are: Hartmann Neuron Kbd and VSC3. Esp. after watching Dark Side of the Moon documentary, I really started to lust after EMS Synthi / VSC3 - that would probably be my first (pseudo)modular.

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this thread (well not this, but the dj-booth-variant of it) got stickied in the djbooth, should we do the same? its always coming up again anyway?

+1 I agree

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Originally posted by aNYthing What's up with all the virus hatin? I like my TI. Although I do agree that soft synths are catching up with Virus. It's hard to justify keeping the virus if you're not a gigging/live musician when you have so many other synths and soft synths are pretty darn good. though the thought did cross my mind. however, I always end up getting virus again, as I like it's sound A LOT... and I'm pretty comfortable using it these days. BTW, I had Andromeda and Matrix 12 before - which I both sold and I'll be honest, I don't really miss them. Andromeda was perhaps the most overrated of all synths I ever owned. And yes, I did not use just presets but it just didn't do anything for me. It took TOOO FUCKING LONG to get it to sound different from everything else. It has the most bland sound and I doubt anyone could ever ID it in a mix. You can hear Virus or Moog or Jupiter or Elka and say - THIS IS such and such synth. With Andromeda it lacked it's own characters and it was perhaps the most digital sounding analog I ever played with. Speaking of overrated synths, I also had Prophet VS, Prophet 08, DSI MEK, and DSI PEK which I also sold swearing to never purchase another sequential or DSI gear again, Pro 5 included... no offense.. just didn't do anything at all for me.

I enjoyed your insight here.

I sold my TI this past summer after owning it for about three years and designing a sound bank (see my sig). The main reasons:

*Using the Virus|Control is way too buggy and kind of sucked the fun out of owning a hardware instrument. The synth has gotten so damn complicated that you practically *have* to use the software interface to get reasonable access to all its features, but it's buggy and annoying -- always adding little clips and digital artifacts into the track as well as voices randomly cutting out when the CPU load goes up. Then, when you play through the track again, it would either sound perfect or there would be voices cutting out/digital artifacts somewhere else! Inconsistent and very annoying.

*I didn't feel the instrument was capable of anything that my current line up can't do better (Waldorf Q, Waldorf XT, Nord Lead 3, Alesis Andromeda).

*The instruments character is a bit too easy to pick up on. In this genre, I think it to be detrimental if someone can hear that you're using the same damn thing everyone else does. Makes you seem uninspired.

Although I have been thinking about getting an original Access Virus. I kind of feel they may have gotten it perfect the first time. All the main features are accessible right from the knobs, no space wasted on FX, and even though it doesn't have the third osc, I always found that to do little or nothing, especially when it already has a dedicated sub osc. While, as I said, its sound can be noticed VERY easily, it's capable of sounding quite unique when used right. And for $350 or so, I figure I'll give it a try. I do love this audio demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjR02Ju7UE

About the Andromeda, I suppose I can see not owning an Andromeda when you already have a JP8 and a SYnthex. I look at my Andy as the closest I'll ever come to owning a Jupiter 8. Not necessarily I feel it's impossible, but because I don't want to put that much $$ into something that is "old" technology. The Andromeda may not sound quite like a classic analog, but where it lacks there it makes up for it with voices, modulation capabilities, multi-timbrel capabilities, and other various features like having LFOs for every voice. You get all that for about $1750 used. PLUS, there were a lot of these made, so parts or a replacement will be easy to find if ever needed. I've heard lots of people complain about the Andromeda's sound, but I like it. It can definitely sound A LOT like a classic analog but still has a very modern punch and character.

On the DSI side of things, I've owned both a Prophet 08 and a PEK. I wasn't too fond of either and eventually sold. Even after I designed a sound bank for the Prophet 08. Its sound was very gritty and sloppy rather than punchy. Although I kind of like the Tetra since it has multi-timbrel capabilities. I may get one some day if I can find an easy way to get my patches on it. I have been meaning to email DSI about this.

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Originally posted by aNYthing My 2 next dream synths are: Hartmann Neuron Kbd and VSC3. Esp. after watching Dark Side of the Moon documentary, I really started to lust after EMS Synthi / VSC3 - that would probably be my first (pseudo)modular.

I'm on the waiting list (for several years now) for a brand new VCS3. They're great synths, and it looks like Robin Wood is finally getting things in order to start building them again.

Having said that, though, I'm not sure I'd suggest it to anyone who didn't already know exactly what they were going to get. They're selling for idiotic amounts of money right now, and it's really not "a lot" of synth for the money. It's rather limited, and mainly just has a following because of how unique it sounds. It also doesn't really have typical CV control inputs and outputs, instead going with some strange custom connection (designed to work with the keyboards made by EMS). Makes it difficult to integrate with the rest of a studio, unless you're just planning to use it as a stand alone modular with no external control.

Prepare a large repair savings account for a Neuron. I know a few people who have them, and all of them have ended up spending at least 2-3k keeping them up and running since they got them. It's a cool synth, but, ehh... Maybe look into the new Acxel for something similar, possibly a bit cheaper (or a lot more expensive, depending on options), and in my opinion, more interesting? http://www.acxel2.com/

The fact that it's new and still supported, already puts it way ahead of the Neuron in my book.

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Originally posted by hexadecimal I'm on the waiting list (for several years now) for a brand new VCS3. They're great synths, and it looks like Robin Wood is finally getting things in order to start building them again. Having said that, though, I'm not sure I'd suggest it to anyone who didn't already know exactly what they were going to get. They're selling for idiotic amounts of money right now, and it's really not "a lot" of synth for the money. It's rather limited, and mainly just has a following because of how unique it sounds. It also doesn't really have typical CV control inputs and outputs, instead going with some strange custom connection (designed to work with the keyboards made by EMS). Makes it difficult to integrate with the rest of a studio, unless you're just planning to use it as a stand alone modular with no external control. Prepare a large repair savings account for a Neuron. I know a few people who have them, and all of them have ended up spending at least 2-3k keeping them up and running since they got them. It's a cool synth, but, ehh... Maybe look into the new Acxel for something similar, possibly a bit cheaper (or a lot more expensive, depending on options), and in my opinion, more interesting? http://www.acxel2.com/ The fact that it's new and still supported, already puts it way ahead of the Neuron in my book.

EMS may be a pipe dream - I think Jupiter and Synthex will be as impractical as I'll get, in terms of overpaying for something. As far as Neuron goes, my understanding was that inside it was nothing more than a PC running a ported version of Linux and "Neuron" app on a hard drive, connected to front panel controllers + keyboard.

How hard would it be to fix a PC?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartmann_Neuron

You guys and your tens of thousands of dollars in synths make me feel so pathetic. My biggest dillema of the last few months is whether or not to spend a few hundred bucks replacing my Prophet 08 with an SE ATC-Xi Quad or SE-1X.

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Originally posted by cryophonik You guys and your tens of thousands of dollars in synths make me feel so pathetic. My biggest dillema of the last few months is whether or not to spend a few hundred bucks replacing my Prophet 08 with an SE ATC-Xi Quad or SE-1X.

On that note, I've sold my Pulse and am in the process of seling my ATC-1 because mono synths bug the piss out of me. You should get an Alesis Andromeda. My sound bank is almost ready for its first release.

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