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Originally posted by Vector A Oh, fuck work. Fuck it in the fucking ass with a sandpaper wrapped baseball bat.

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Originally posted by Vector A Oh, fuck work. Fuck it in the fucking ass with a sandpaper wrapped baseball bat.

The worst thing about this economy is even if you HAVE a job, you live in stress because you can't quit without having 6-8 months of savings while you try to find a new one.

Employers have way too much of an upper-hand right now. They know they can treat the employees like crap (within the law) because they know you have no (or very few) other options.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Linking to porn, Eddie? I think I may have to suspend you I know where you got it, just take out the links, please)

I did.

EDIT: Okay. I thought I got all of them but I missed a couple.

So its Dec 3rd, 7.30 am and its 12°C outside


If it gets any warmer i might have put away my winter clothes and take out stuff for the beach.

Re: Oh,

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Originally posted by Fledz Lira is back, yay!

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Originally posted by Fledz Well I can't just let my abrasive reputation slip now can I? Especially not with Lira around!

Well, that's the reason why I returned: all boards need a resident hippy so the rest of you can be abrasive

Talking about being the resident hippy, I've just read an article about "Angie Varona" (check picture to confirm you already know her, I'm sure you do). I can't help but feel bad for the girl, as I had no idea these pictures had such an impact on her life:

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MIAMI — Juan and Maria Varona of Miami are struggling through a situation no parent should ever have to wrestle with. Hackers have intruded into their lives, violated their daughter's privacy. And they want others to know that it can happen to them, too. About four years ago, their youngest child, Angie Varona, uploaded some photos to her private Photobucket account. Among the pictures: Angie posing in her bikini and in a bra and panties, images meant only for her then-boyfriend to see. She was 14 and brash — as many teens are at that age — without the foresight to suspect what could happen next. "It was stupid," Angie, now 18, says. "I guess I thought I looked appealing and sexy. My self-esteem wasn't what it should've been either." Plenty of her friends were doing much of the same. Posting provocative pictures on their Facebook walls. Sending images they would later regret to boyfriends who would one day become ex-boyfriends. But Angie's account was hacked, and six months later a school friend emailed her an ominous note: Her pictures were appearing on porn sites. At the time, her name did not accompany her photos. That would come later. That and people posing as Angie Varona on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and assorted forums and message boards. Eventually, the nightmarish notoriety would land the Miami teen on ABC's "Nightline" to warn other girls about the possible consequences of posting provocative photos — no matter how private the website. She also recounted her story in MiamiMontage, a publication produced by high school journalism students at a University of Miami summer program. "All this time, I wish I had listened to my parents," she says. "None of this would've happened and I would just be living through the regular drama of high school." Remembering that initial discovery still makes her shudder. "I was crying hysterically. I couldn't believe it," she says. And she didn't know then how bad it would get. Over the next four years, she would become an unwitting and unwilling Internet sex symbol. She immediately told her parents, who went to Miami-Dade police and hired a lawyer. The police couldn't do anything about it. There was no nudity in the photos, so it didn't qualify as child pornography. But it was the family's introduction to the underworld of child erotica. "Some of those sites had girls younger than Angie, naked," recalls Juan Varona, a teacher. "Kids take pictures of themselves in the bathroom and don't understand how others can just hack into their accounts." Varona says he was disappointed in his daughter when he found out what had happened. He and his wife had warned her about the perils of the Internet. As a teacher, he was aware of the growing problem of teens posting and sending nude or semi-nude photos of themselves. But he also recognized that Angie's photos were no more than "bathing suit shots. It wasn't any different than what you see other girls wearing on the beach or in Victoria's Secret [catalogs]." The family's lawyer emailed some of the websites to ask that the unauthorized photos be taken down. A few complied. One hacker was tracked to Spain, too, and for a few months the Varonas thought the problem might be contained. Juan, however, was anxious. "I knew that when something gets out there, when something goes viral, you can't stop it. It takes on a life of its own." And it did, with the photos making their way to pedophile sites. Within weeks, classmates and teachers at her high school knew about her Internet photos. Some called her a slut and a porn star. "They would stare at me funny in the hallways and I knew why," Angie recalls. "If I was dating a guy, they would send him the pictures from one of the websites and ask, do you want to date a girl that the whole world can see her body?" Even now, if you Google her name, you get more than a million hits. "People are mean. They'll write that I wanted to be famous, that I wanted all this, and I didn't," she says. Her friends told her it could be worse — the photos could be more revealing. But that offered little consolation. She changed schools. Her parents worried how it would affect her college and job prospects. "These kind of things happened in our time, but they were contained," Juan Varona said. "We didn't have anything like the Internet. Now there's no privacy." The torment didn't end in the new school. She was stalked and threatened. She had to leave her job at a mall when the manager kept getting calls — male voices asking when Angie Varona was working. She fought with her parents and ran away a couple of times. Eventually, the Varonas decided to home school her. It was a momentous change for Angie, a gifted student who had enjoyed the social and academic aspects of the classroom. Now in 12th grade, she looks back with regret at what she has missed — her junior ring ceremony, senior class activities, the camaraderie. She has changed. She's no longer as friendly as she once was. "It's hard for me to make new friends," she says. She can't wait to move out of Miami, out of Florida, and hopes that leaving home for college will put the past behind her. She is considering changing her name. The most difficult part for her? "The embarrassment to my family. Say what you want about me, but don't go around bashing my parents. They didn't do this."

[Source]

I've always felt uncomfortable about the popularity of the pictures of someone who's clearly under-aged, even if they look "promising in the future", or whatever you call it (it's not hard to stumble upon these pictures either, as the internet is full of unwilling "stars"). Should there not be a law against this? It's not like the internet is running out of porn and big bosomed models...

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Originally posted by Lira Should there not be a law against this?

There already is; it's called the copyright law. If these bitches had half a brain, they'd register copyright on their salacious photos, then go after anyone reproducing them for $150,000 per infringement.

Otherwise, they can quit whining and resign themselves to being treated like the dumb sluts that they most certainly are.

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Originally posted by Arbiter There already is; it's called the copyright law. If these bitches had half a brain, they'd register copyright on their salacious photos, then go after anyone reproducing them for $150,000 per infringement.

I mean a law that can easily be enforced, not one that is broken every couple of seconds in your average household

Besides, there would be an obvious backlash because posters would quickly conclude she did it for the money, and internet wankers are quite unforgiving when it comes to demanding a right they never had.

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Originally posted by Arbiter Otherwise, they can quit whining and resign themselves to being treated like the dumb sluts that they most certainly are.

I still think we need a more imposing law to take care of issues like this one. I'm half unconscious here and not exactly in my most creative state but "Unauthorised Borderline Child Pornography" would be way more 'scary' than any given copyright law, I believe. But, even though I humbly disagree with you, you're the one in law school, so what do I know?

Please. I'm not buying that whole "They hacked my account" bit. As a hot piece of tail, she just needs to buck up and deal with the jealousy from all the fugly slags that outnumber her 100 to 1 like any other gorgeous woman would.

I got distracted half way down Lira's post, so I have no idea what we're talking about any more.

What I have learned from 16 minutes of watching Jackie Chan's Shinjuku Incident.

1. Asian Mobsters are just cooler in general. They aren't dirty like Italians mobsters.

2. Chinese are the Mexicans of Japan.

Damn Jackie Chan is hardcore in this movie... No comedy, this is a straight up asian gangster movie.

I just assumed all of those "Angie Verona" pics were of her at the age of 18 or older.

She is one insanely good-looking human being.

I do feel a bit bad, though, because instead of just being harassed by frat guys and dudebros her whole youth, she gets to be harassed by the ENTIRE INTERNET.

I suppose that's a valid point.

I dunno about the claims she was 14 at the time those pics were taken tho. I mean, what kind of 14 year-old has tittays like that?!

Re: Re: Re: Oh,

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Originally posted by Arbiter There already is; it's called the copyright law. If these bitches had half a brain, they'd register copyright on their salacious photos, then go after anyone reproducing them for $150,000 per infringement. Otherwise, they can quit whining and resign themselves to being treated like the dumb sluts that they most certainly are.

Copyright is natural in any country that has signed the Berne Convention. Any works created by a person is naturally copyrighted by the shear fact that they created them. You are thinking of trademark, which has to be registered and protected in any country that you want to use it for you to lay claim to it.

Lira, there doesn't need to be a law, because any law that would be vague enough to stop people from doing it would be vague enough to easily abuse.

Bad idea.

Just look at child pornography laws, they are obviously meant to protect children, but look at the rise in criminal prosecutions against minors that take nude photos of themselves out of their own volition. Thats an abuse of a law that is meant to protect them.

It would be much more easy if people did not get hung up on sexual things as much as they do. She took pictures of herself in her panties and bra? So what? People know she wears panties and bras now? People imposing stupid ideals on sexuality cause far more harm to many more people than any sort of sexual deviancy does.

It is our own fault for taunting Nou with the topic of child pornography yet again

Is litigation the only thing Yanks know how to do?
Oh, apart from printing money that doesn't exist and attacking other countries.

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Originally posted by Lira I've always felt uncomfortable about the popularity of the pictures of someone who's clearly under-aged, even if they look "promising in the future", or whatever you call it (it's not hard to stumble upon these pictures either, as the internet is full of unwilling "stars"). Should there not be a law against this? It's not like the internet is running out of porn and big bosomed models...

Me, as well. I understand why other people find them alluring but it is something I find revolting.

There are big titty teens like that, Witty. I had a couple of busty schoolmates in middle school, so I assume they still exist, and even the ever so zany Japs had something similar a while ago (though in this case the apparently fame hungry parents were doing their best to make her daughter part of China's wank bank so she could be a famous actress in the future... or summat).

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Originally posted by WittyHandle Please. I'm not buying that whole "They hacked my account" bit.

Why not? All it takes is one naïve girl with a boyfriend she wants to please and one Radagast to make this happen.

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Originally posted by WittyHandle As a hot piece of tail, she just needs to buck up and deal with the jealousy from all the fugly slags that outnumber her 100 to 1 like any other gorgeous woman would.

It's not just a "Mingers vs Hottie" thing. Like Quazar said, it's an epic battle between "Hottie vs the whole freaking Internet" and she's exposed to creepy individuals of all sorts. Did you read the bit about Angie not being able to have a job because of incessant phone calls? It doesn't seem that teenage accidental stardom in these cases is a delightful experience to the teenagers themselves: Amanda Wenk, who was also an internet sensation until not long ago apparently had her boobs reduced () for the exact same reason.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Lira, there doesn't need to be a law, because any law that would be vague enough to stop people from doing it would be vague enough to easily abuse.

Why should it be vague?

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