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Posted by Freak on Nov-02-2018 17:54:

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Originally posted by DJ RANN


I think serato might well go under if they don't partner with Phase or get eaten by NI or something.


Good. Their software is awful and still glitchy as hell.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-02-2018 20:30:

Is traktor the preferred pro platform? Or are most using Rekord box due to Pio?


Posted by Brandt Slater on Nov-02-2018 22:01:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN

I think serato might well go under if they don't partner with Phase or get eaten by NI or something.



They pretty much are partnered. The last championship turntable battle was nothing but Phase and Serato. Phase project utilized the Serato software for testing.

If anything Traktor would go away before Rekordbox or Serato.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-03-2018 20:18:

Maybe but all their literature and marketing specifically says compatible with any platform and AFAIK (I've spoken to them once) there's nothing official / concrete between them and Serato.

The only reason I think serato is in trouble is that Serato can't survive as just a software company. The serato interfaces were the piracy protection and they were charging silly prices for basic interfaces and that's whet their profit was.

Take that away and it's just software with so copy protection and DJ's a tight bunch so I doubt they'll sell much in terms of stand alone copies.

Traktor however is NI, and they are primarily a software company. They probably don't care much that their boxes are now redundant as evidenced by the fact they've gone "untethered" / native. NI make a shit ton from their other software titles like Komplete and other plugins, not to mention keyboards etc.

I just don't see how Serato can survive in present form as a company just selling DJ software. Maybe there are investors of phase or an announcement is coming soon but I think Phase would be bonkers to limit themselves to one platform.


Posted by Brandt Slater on Nov-04-2018 22:25:

I knew Phase works on Rekordbox, Serato, Traktor, but all the promo's and demos I saw, seemed like they were using primarily Serato turntablists.

If you think about it, I feel it's the cartridge companies like Ortofon who should be worried about Phase then the software companies. Just the prices of lets say a Nightclub S replacement stylus has gone way up. Compared to what we used to pay. I remember paying $40 for one and now their asking $60 or higher. It could also just be a mark up, but still that's pretty crazy. I can't wait for my Phase's to get in. Ordered one set early on, and saw recently, a four pack deal with case and purchased that too.

For DVS software, its more preference than anything. I still see more Serato users, however, I've been seeing more Rekordbox DJ software nowadays too. I have all three, and each have a plus and minus. I'm really digging Rekordbox more than the others. However, the one minus to Rekordbox is use you have to use Pioneer stuff. Or you have to buy the external DVS I/O to use non Pioneer gear. I read that apparently there's some Rekordbox hacks, but haven't looked into them. Traktor will always be my favorite, but NI did fall asleep for a couple of years on their DJ software. I mean Traktor 3 is an improvement over 2 but for as long as it took them to release it, I was expecting more I guess. I dunno, I'm not married to one or the other, I like all three.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-06-2018 19:49:

I think the likes of Ortofon have taken a but of a kicking but I think they still do OK on audiophile sales and given that vinyl has made a comeback (My local barnes and noble has a massive section, albeit classic re-releases and mainstream artists) I think their bread and butter market is OK.

I can imagine that their digital/DVS needles are going to die a painful and swift death though as now you only need a good analogue needle and a Phase for the best of both worlds.

I wonder if Phase will negatively affect dance music vinyl sales as the new method of DVS takes a bite from those that couldn't abide needle based DVS (myself included). It's probably an incredibly niche % though.

I think the reason NI slacked off on Traktor is that there isn't huge money in it and their revenue is in other software and hardware - that's exactly why I think serato might be in trouble as I really don't believe they can survive (unless without extreme downsizing) as just a DJ software company.

Pio obviously have sales elsewhere so they're safe, NI obviously too but all of Serato's eggs are in their overpriced copy protection dongles, which just became redundant.

It may just be a case of all the people they're doing their demos with use serato as it seems a lot of hiphop/turntablists like to use it?

I think the smartest thing serato could do would be to buy phase.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-23-2018 20:43:

PHASE PROJECT DVS / DJ CONTROLLER NOW AVAILABLE!

So it seems their website has gone from pre order to actually shipping orders!

YASSSSSS

https://www.phase-project.com/bundles

Can't wait to get my grubbies on a set


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-27-2018 03:39:

FUCKERS.

Got an email today saying they've had last minute mass production issues and now they won't be available until January.


Posted by Brandt Slater on Dec-08-2018 22:25:

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Originally posted by DJ RANN
FUCKERS.

Got an email today saying they've had last minute mass production issues and now they won't be available until January.



This is now the third delay. Ordered my first set back in June, and another set in October. It's frustrating.


Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-10-2018 01:56:

I know. They need to get their shit together. I understand it's a new product etc, and new tech, which can have issues but they've been teasing this for a year now, with a world tour and frankly, don't hype the product if you can't deliver.


Posted by DJ RANN on Dec-29-2018 01:14:

Ok, should be next month.

However, they've quietly launched another product which seems interesting.


Basically, you just need an ipad and a Turntable. They give a digital cross fader that you connect to the ipad and scratch with it. They also have a little box that lets you plug it all in. Maybe a bit gimmicky but they seem to be pushing the envelope....


https://mwm-store.com/mixfader


Posted by Brandt Slater on Jan-04-2019 19:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Ok, should be next month.

However, they've quietly launched another product which seems interesting.


Basically, you just need an ipad and a Turntable. They give a digital cross fader that you connect to the ipad and scratch with it. They also have a little box that lets you plug it all in. Maybe a bit gimmicky but they seem to be pushing the envelope....


https://mwm-store.com/mixfader


New update from Phase.

PRODUCTION UPDATE

Since the last update, we've made very good progress on the production of Phase and we estimate that there are only 10 days of production left before completing the very first batch of pre-orders.

As we approach the Chinese New Year, factories are running full swing before taking a short break until late February so production schedules are very tight. This could affect finalizing production in January and push the completion date to March, but we are doing our absolute best to finish this last step with our manufacturing partners to be on time.

We will continue to update you during these final stages of production and will notify you of an estimated shipping date very soon.



Beyond annoying.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jan-05-2019 21:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Brandt Slater
New update from Phase.

PRODUCTION UPDATE

Since the last update, we've made very good progress on the production of Phase and we estimate that there are only 10 days of production left before completing the very first batch of pre-orders.

As we approach the Chinese New Year, factories are running full swing before taking a short break until late February so production schedules are very tight. This could affect finalizing production in January and push the completion date to March, but we are doing our absolute best to finish this last step with our manufacturing partners to be on time.

We will continue to update you during these final stages of production and will notify you of an estimated shipping date very soon.



Beyond annoying.


Yeah I saw that

It sounds like they're preempting the fact that they won't make their Jan deadline.

Chinese new year is a real thing in terms of delays (I used to work with a company that made goods in china and basically everything came to a halt for a good two weeks) but why it would push it out to March I don't know.

These fuckers seriously need to deliver. I'm losing patience and starting to think the thing doesn't actually work.


Posted by DJ RANN on Jan-12-2019 00:01:

Total ****bags.

Production has now been confirmed as pushed back to March due to "chinese new year" and their factory shutting down. These guys nee to get their shit together and deliver in march.

and they better hopes there's no problems as a year delay and the product still not working would basically end them.


Posted by miamitranceman on Jan-19-2019 05:29:

Wow. Iíve been casually following this through the updates on here but this is pretty ridiculous at this point!


Posted by DJ RANN on Feb-02-2019 21:37:

So they've confirmed the delivery date as the end of march. I think they're using a the Chinese new Year as a crutch to make sure all the bugs are ironed out. Hopefully we'll have them then, but if there are any more delays they can kiss my pasty arse.


Posted by DJ RANN on Feb-17-2019 00:30:

Party Hat

P.s. Happy Birthday MiamiTranceMan!!!


Posted by miamitranceman on Feb-18-2019 23:07:

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Originally posted by DJ RANN
P.s. Happy Birthday MiamiTranceMan!!!



Thank you, sir!


Posted by DJ RANN on Feb-28-2019 20:46:

Welp. here's the latest from Phase"

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We wanted to update all of our Phase VIP with information regarding the shipping of Phase...that's right!

We're on track to start shipping March 22nd!

Below are our current updates:

February 25th: Factory has reopened and production has officially resumed.

March 8th: Estimated end of production.

March 22nd: Shipping to pre-order customers begins. We're closely monitoring production and will be providing some new updates as we get closer. Let's get ready everyone!


Let's see what happens....


Posted by miamitranceman on Mar-01-2019 14:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Welp. here's the latest from Phase"



Let's see what happens....



The saga continues....


Posted by Brandt Slater on Mar-02-2019 22:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Welp. here's the latest from Phase"



Let's see what happens....


Yep. From all I've read it seems like this the last straw for buyers. If they come back with another delay, there's gonna be a lot of refunding.

I see all the major online vendors are taking preorders as well.


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-03-2019 21:22:

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I refrained from placing a pre-order after the first delay, and if they can't deliver now, then I know they're not worth bothering with.

I've also dealt heavily with manufacturing in China before and while they do close for New Year, it doesn't entirely stop production for 6+ weeks.

However, I'd prefer for them to deliver a perfect product than release early and have a shitty one. Only a couple of weeks now.....


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-22-2019 22:10:

Apparently, the Phase units start shipping on the 25th. There's no info when stores will have them but at least they've confirmed the production is finished.

I'll post up a review the moment I get my grubbies on some....


Posted by miamitranceman on Mar-25-2019 13:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Apparently, the Phase units start shipping on the 25th. There's no info when stores will have them but at least they've confirmed the production is finished.

I'll post up a review the moment I get my grubbies on some....


Nice


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-29-2019 03:43:

There's still no sign of them in shops yet and it seems no one has actually received their pre orders so it's still a waiting game...


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