Originally posted by PaULiN0
Will try my hardest on the melody that can really shine on the track and drive it full on. Thanks again guys.
Look into utilizing rhythmic progressions of backing pads/bassline more to to support your melody when you want to make it count. Can really give emphasis to an area of a track when you drop the progression.
Originally posted by djnitride
Look into utilizing rhythmic progressions of backing pads/bassline more to to support your melody when you want to make it count. Can really give emphasis to an area of a track when you drop the progression.
Let me try to get something down first and then lets see where it can be taken imho. I will try that for the hook if that makes sense. lol what a newb i am.
Posted by Oakenshield on Aug-28-2014 11:29:
haveing a break from the other tune so il post the other im working on
what books are good for learning to master? as im horrible at it
Posted by PaULiN0 on Aug-28-2014 12:11:
Nice, I'm liking that clip Mr. Oakenshield. The kick has a nice thump to it and overall you have a good mix down.
Posted by Evolve140 on Aug-29-2014 20:18:
Posted by Fuxzz on Aug-29-2014 22:05:
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Originally posted by Oakenshield
haveing a break from the other tune so il post the other im working on
what books are good for learning to master? as im horrible at it
I like it too. At 4:00 I can REALLY hear the vocal start to fade in though.
Posted by Evolve140 on Aug-30-2014 17:46:
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Originally posted by Oakenshield
haveing a break from the other tune so il post the other im working on
what books are good for learning to master? as im horrible at it
Satisfactory mix, might want to work on the transitions in the parts where the drums drop out. You can even see in the waveform it looks super sudden. The synths are good, but in the breakdown along with the hipassing you might want to consider some delay automation to give it more space and atmosphere, sort of dry at the moment. The drum build at the end of the break is a little jarring, the weird timing kind of throws me off, I would try putting the timing totally quantized and double the length of the build up and maybe at a reverse crash along with the snare buildup.
It has a nice classic trance feel though. The arrangement towards the end is kinda out of whack though, you might want to consider consolidating those little mini breaks into one 2nd whole break and focus on the buildup and drop release. Other than that the mixing and sound selection is pretty spot on, good work. If the arrangement was on par with everything else it would be a nice pro track.
Posted by Oakenshield on Aug-30-2014 18:35:
thanx people i have not been producing long so im muddling along with things.
il go back to it Monday as weekend is football time
il work on my transitions but im learning as i go i know what i want to do but i dont have the skills to do it yet but i will get it right soon enough.
maybe i should add 16 bars to the main drop to build down then break for the second time but keeping the baseline in and some of the perc.
then have only 1 mini drop to go into the transition for outro sound about right?
some reverb on the drums for the main break down while cutting the low on the kick and fade out.
i do use delay on the vox on the drop but this is where i need to improve
Posted by Evolve140 on Aug-30-2014 20:36:
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Originally posted by Oakenshield
thanx people i have not been producing long so im muddling along with things.
il go back to it Monday as weekend is football time
il work on my transitions...
transitions can be tricky, a simple way of doing is to take your drum sounds at the end of a measure or right before the percussion drops out, one of the simplest yet effective transitions are using drums. sometimes it can be something as simple as a nice, short drum fill, or using them to build up a whole bar for tension.
try taking one of the synths in your track, and draw a note in the key of the track, give it a nice release so it kind of slowly fades out. export the audio for this and reverse it, you'll see the waveform look like it's winding up, combing that with reverse crashes and stuff like that can do the job pretty well.
as for the outro, don't get side tracked worrying about that much. it just needs to be easy for a DJ to mix out of. same with the intro. they're parts of the track that people will hear the least. also, try beginning the track with full drums (maybe without the clap/snare).
the lead acid thing could do with some pad to compliment it in parts, and would also give you a chance to expand on the melodic and harmonic aspect of the track.
as for having the skills, if you can produce at this level then you have the skills to do transitions. technically speaking it's not difficult, the actual challenge is doing it in a way that is tasteful, simple and aesthetically pleasing.
one other piece of advise is to try and place something unique in the track to make it stand out as your own. right now it's not really exploring anything too original or unique. figure out a way to make it sound like "you"
Posted by evo8 on Aug-30-2014 21:11:
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Originally posted by Evolve140
yeah not bad, its missing something for me, maybe in the kick/bass area - it sounds a bit flat there or something, i think a punchier style kick would work better - something with more midrange
Posted by SystematicX1 on Aug-31-2014 08:18:
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Originally posted by evo8
yeah not bad, its missing something for me, maybe in the kick/bass area - it sounds a bit flat there or something, i think a punchier style kick would work better - something with more midrange
I was thinking the same thing in areas. To me, it sounds sort of disconjointed.
The repetitiveness of the track is ok but the transitions of arrangement lend it sounding the same.
Possibly some sustaining mid frequency tones or at least some atmosphere.
Posted by SystematicX1 on Aug-31-2014 08:24:
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Originally posted by Oakenshield
haveing a break from the other tune so il post the other im working on
what books are good for learning to master? as im horrible at it
Pretty cool track man =O)
For me, the percussion intro is to long without really much changing at the beginning. However, that flam at the 50 sec. mark is awesome add and carries the percussion.
Like the vocal delay alot but the transitions need some adjusting as the are quite evident when they appear.
Around the 4:00 mark I was listening and wanting some higher frequency and then you passed it and it came...nice job.
I think you need some sub in there somewhere,but that's just me.
Nice work =O)
Posted by SystematicX1 on Aug-31-2014 08:42:
Welp, got a new pair of monitors and trying to get adjusted to them. This is the first demo track Im working on. Production tips always appreciated!
Posted by Oakenshield on Aug-31-2014 11:20:
thanx for the feedback i aint kiddin when i said im new trto this im a dj that had a stroke who is now trying to produce.
only been doing this a few months and i basicly have stock ableton vstation and diversion + some free vst!
need to find some good delay/reverb vst's!
scorpradio
i like ur track but on my setup the kick is very muddy (50 second mark) and hard to hear (2x 18"Cab units on 1k rack amp) but it might just be me!
il set about making changes tomorra!
Posted by djnitride on Aug-31-2014 21:54:
If you can afford it get Valhalla Room for reverb. Sounds fantastic and is extremely versatile. Pretty much covers all bases as far as reverb is concerned, IMO. There is a demo version available so you can listen for yourself. Reason I love it is because it sounds extremely natural, it just blends into the track perfectly.
For delay there are plenty of free plugins out there that will do the job just fine, but Ableton should come with one I would think.
Posted by evo8 on Sep-01-2014 10:41:
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Originally posted by scorpradio
Welp, got a new pair of monitors and trying to get adjusted to them. This is the first demo track Im working on. Production tips always appreciated!
man i really liked the start of this, the arp is really nice fading in and out - and then you got rid of it! Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-01-2014 11:06:
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Originally posted by scorpradio
Welp, got a new pair of monitors and trying to get adjusted to them. This is the first demo track Im working on. Production tips always appreciated!
Quite a catchy quirky melodic line you got goin on.
Mix wise, for me it's a bit fried egg sizzling on the hi's, but others might like that.
Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-01-2014 11:16:
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Originally posted by evo8
new one
This is a good track all round mate, really enjoyed it as it washes over me. I don't find the bass too thin, I like this sort of more unusual bass line and sound.
Nice to hear a track that does not rely on glitch and mangled stutter leads which are just everywhere now.
Posted by evo8 on Sep-01-2014 14:25:
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Originally posted by Richard Butler
This is a good track all round mate, really enjoyed it as it washes over me. I don't find the bass too thin, I like this sort of more unusual bass line and sound.
Nice to hear a track that does not rely on glitch and mangled stutter leads which are just everywhere now.
thanks dude - its missing something overall but not sure what that is
havent heard anything from yourself lately??
Posted by PaULiN0 on Sep-01-2014 15:27:
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Originally posted by scorpradio
Welp, got a new pair of monitors and trying to get adjusted to them. This is the first demo track Im working on. Production tips always appreciated!
Agree with Evo on this one although its really great.
Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-01-2014 15:34:
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Originally posted by evo8
thanks dude - its missing something overall but not sure what that is
havent heard anything from yourself lately??
I'd say the odd little picky bell type melody here n there to round it off maybe?
I got sick of having so many WIPs hanging around so I'm in a new phase of finishing tracks properly and doing one at a time. I'll post something up at some point.
Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-01-2014 17:10:
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Originally posted by Richard Butler
Quite a catchy quirky melodic line you got goin on.
Mix wise, for me it's a bit fried egg sizzling on the hi's, but others might like that.
Thanks All! Appreciate the feedback.
Evo, the arp DOES return =OP
And Richard...you are correct, those highs are to high. These monitors have such a huge bass reflex and so I found myself trying to balance the bass but after listening in my car...I have to agree.
Posted by PaULiN0 on Sep-01-2014 18:43:
What monitors are you using scorp?
Posted by kosmotika on Sep-01-2014 19:17:
Remix of Infernal - Sorti De L'enfer I'm working on...I'm just about done with it, but here's a clip anyways. Oldschool pizzicato type stuff.
Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-01-2014 20:02:
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Originally posted by PaULiN0
What monitors are you using scorp?
