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Posted by TranceLover007 on Sep-10-2019 00:31:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1

Working this little chill d&b track in about 20 minutes. Haven't done much but think it has some potential.
Needs some mids for sure and will probably throw in a hook somewhere



This is actually pretty cool WIP man, has some nice underlying melodic story which will be worth it to develop farther - i think you have something really promising on your hands and with some proper mixing and tweaking to EQ you can make this your next release.

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by Hides in Shadow on Sep-10-2019 04:12:

Hey Gordan try now...


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-10-2019 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
This is actually pretty cool WIP man, has some nice underlying melodic story which will be worth it to develop farther - i think you have something really promising on your hands and with some proper mixing and tweaking to EQ you can make this your next release.

Cheers,

Darek


Thanks D,

Yea..came together fairly quick and do plan on adding elements. Thanks for the critique


Posted by TranceLover007 on Sep-10-2019 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
Thanks D,

Yea..came together fairly quick and do plan on adding elements. Thanks for the critique


I'm trying to never critique anybody's else work, rather to give some suggestion or directions for I would do with it (if this was my work) - should be taken as complement

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-10-2019 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
I'm trying to never critique anybody's else work, rather to give some suggestion or directions for I would do with it (if this was my work) - should be taken as complement

Cheers,

Darek


ALWAYS appreciate your input D. I guess I am trying out a new work flow and it seems to be helpful,to me. I have serious ADD,my attention span is very low. So, I get in a groove with a track and get it to a point where I am somewhat satisfied (composition and partial arrangement) and then I stop and move on to doing a new track. After awhile (like currently with me) I end up with like 8 songs. Then I go back and re visit them and decided if I feel the same way about the track.If I do I go into completion mode with a mix. Hopefully I can dwindle down 3-4 solid tracks to distribute to a label for my first submits


Posted by TranceLover007 on Sep-10-2019 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
ALWAYS appreciate your input D. I guess I am trying out a new work flow and it seems to be helpful,to me. I have serious ADD,my attention span is very low. So, I get in a groove with a track and get it to a point where I am somewhat satisfied (composition and partial arrangement) and then I stop and move on to doing a new track. After awhile (like currently with me) I end up with like 8 songs. Then I go back and re visit them and decided if I feel the same way about the track.If I do I go into completion mode with a mix. Hopefully I can dwindle down 3-4 solid tracks to distribute to a label for my first submits


If you can finish 4~6 tracks then I can give you some contact for release - I'm currently with AWAL and can't complain at the moment.

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-10-2019 21:17:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
If you can finish 4~6 tracks then I can give you some contact for release - I'm currently with AWAL and can't complain at the moment.

Cheers,

Darek


Thnks D, appreciate that


Posted by TranceLover007 on Sep-10-2019 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
ALWAYS appreciate your input D. I guess I am trying out a new work flow and it seems to be helpful,to me. I have serious ADD,my attention span is very low. So, I get in a groove with a track and get it to a point where I am somewhat satisfied (composition and partial arrangement) and then I stop and move on to doing a new track. After awhile (like currently with me) I end up with like 8 songs. Then I go back and re visit them and decided if I feel the same way about the track.If I do I go into completion mode with a mix. Hopefully I can dwindle down 3-4 solid tracks to distribute to a label for my first submits


Also, you are no different then me man lol - right now I have around 6 different concept from Electro-EDM through Chillout/Smooth Jazz to Nu-Disco - so you can see yourself that getting multiple ideas on the table and selecting the one you think is the best for you to work on it at this moment is pretty much the flow for some producers

Just an example:



Quick (4 to 6 hrs) concept for Chillout/Smooth Jazz styles which need to massage farther (this is already not latest one but is good enough for this example) lol

Cheers man,

Darek


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-10-2019 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Also, you are no different then me man lol - right now I have around 6 different concept from Electro-EDM through Chillout/Smooth Jazz to Nu-Disco - so you can see yourself that getting multiple ideas on the table and selecting the one you think is the best for you to work on it at this moment is pretty much the flow for some producers

Just an example:



Quick (4 to 6 hrs) concept for Chillout/Smooth Jazz styles which need to massage farther (this is already not latest one but is good enough for this example) lol

Cheers man,

Darek


Not really my cup of genre tea really(freakin dig that kick however). And production sounds tight. Curious, are you mixing on the go? I used to do that and found it took more time away from the ideas I had in my head because I was depending on the quality to take the lead in what I was going to do next. Again with the ADD...I just wait till I know I am liking it enough to go into mix mode now. I hate working production on a track I know I wont finish


Posted by TranceLover007 on Sep-10-2019 22:07:

quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
Not really my cup of genre tea really(freakin dig that kick however). And production sounds tight. Curious, are you mixing on the go? I used to do that and found it took more time away from the ideas I had in my head because I was depending on the quality to take the lead in what I was going to do next. Again with the ADD...I just wait till I know I am liking it enough to go into mix mode now. I hate working production on a track I know I wont finish


Yes, I do a proper mixing and level balancing on the fly as any idea need to sound proper before I will give it go - makes (at least for me) huge difference if the sound is not well balance which will cause me to trash this whole concept.

Darek


Posted by evo8 on Sep-11-2019 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
It has been some time for me to post anything over here but I'm still producing and having fun with it lol - my latest WIP (some part of the track) which I'm currently working on (one of few lol). This production is more on Electro-EDM side:



Cheers,

Darek


Love this Darek, sounds great but something about the kick/bass not grooveing right, maybe too much squeezing and the kick seems to be getting crowded slightly? it's almost there imho, sounds really open on the higher mids (vocals and top end of the plucks)


Posted by TranceLover007 on Sep-11-2019 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
Love this Darek, sounds great but something about the kick/bass not grooveing right, maybe too much squeezing and the kick seems to be getting crowded slightly? it's almost there imho, sounds really open on the higher mids (vocals and top end of the plucks)


Thanks Paul for your comment - and this kick as far as I remember is already change to new one which seats a bit differently then the old one (missing freq where added to punch through more dynamically) - the rest will be tackle when I will have more development in the structure to balance and levels all the sounds/tones characteristics.

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by evo8 on Sep-12-2019 14:43:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Thanks Paul for your comment - and this kick as far as I remember is already change to new one which seats a bit differently then the old one (missing freq where added to punch through more dynamically) - the rest will be tackle when I will have more development in the structure to balance and levels all the sounds/tones characteristics.

Cheers,

Darek


look forward to hearing the update!


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-15-2019 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007

Just an example:



Quick (4 to 6 hrs) concept for Chillout/Smooth Jazz styles which need to massage farther (this is already not latest one but is good enough for this example) lol

Cheers man,

Darek


Decent track Derek, sorta thing I often listen to now. Deep and sexy, nice sounds so far.


Posted by Richard Butler on Sep-15-2019 20:30:

I'm working on this one, any thoughts so far?
The image is of a stream and waterfall I recently built that was bare dirt, so there..lol

Got add something to that first break


Posted by evo8 on Sep-16-2019 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I'm working on this one, any thoughts so far?
The image is of a stream and waterfall I recently built that was bare dirt, so there..lol

Got add something to that first break



hey Rich - probably bit too much on the low end for me which is preventing that groove from breaking out


Posted by itsamemario on Sep-18-2019 00:58:

And y'all said this Thread was a Bad IDea!!?! Haha LOL!


Posted by Mel David on Sep-18-2019 11:04:

🦉 It'd be better if it were more like Music Cafe @ KVR. A new thread for each track in its own forum section, so you don't need to scroll past unrelated posts.


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-18-2019 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Mel David
🦉 It'd be better if it were more like Music Cafe @ KVR. A new thread for each track in its own forum section, so you don't need to scroll past unrelated posts.


There is a reason for that. We aren't like KVR obviously and we do not have the member input that KVR has either. That thread at KVR is also open to any genre where as we are pretty much isolated to one (with variables ) on TA.
In all honesty I prefer it here because it forces one to give feedback on a track before you receive feedback on your personal track. Over there, you may not get one reply due to the amounts of people with "other" personal likes/dislikes who don't care about the genre you are playing.This causes a lot of skip over and unless you just have an absolute banger (and still no guarantees) you will probably end up with nonsense or nothing at all.
Here we have 10-15 people doing the same thing pretty much and who actually give a crap about what the other is doing. As well, if you follow protocol you will end up with a wealth of info.
KVR is like a family member or friend. Do you play your music for them? I'd be willing to bet that if you were looking for technical advice you probably wouldn't find it from them.
On the other side of that as a web site admin I cannot even imagine the upkeep over there at KVR. Gotta be brutal
Sorry man...totally disagree


Posted by Hides in Shadow on Sep-19-2019 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Mel David
🦉 It'd be better if it were more like Music Cafe @ KVR. A new thread for each track in its own forum section, so you don't need to scroll past unrelated posts.


No it won't...


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-20-2019 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I'm working on this one, any thoughts so far?
The image is of a stream and waterfall I recently built that was bare dirt, so there..lol

Got add something to that first break



It's a really cool groove and i love sound selection


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-20-2019 20:56:

Does that voice and singing sound stupid over this track?


Posted by SystematicX1 on Sep-21-2019 02:35:

quote:
Originally posted by gordan100
Does that voice and singing sound stupid over this track?



No, it actually fitting. With that said, it needs a few elements imho.
One, It needs to be pronounced. It needs to be the dominate focal point of the track.Push it up in the mix Two, I would suggest a cleanup on the vox. Take the dry bed and give it some high end and give it some clarity. 3rd, Add some delay and verb. With the gap between verses it gives you a chance to make some juicy vox delay tails that would fit nicely in transitions.
ala..
https://youtu.be/P2IGgGLjPkg
Sounds cool man


Posted by gordan100 on Sep-21-2019 14:26:

Thanks for that example and advices, Phil. I have tried to add more highend and clarity on voice but it started to pierce my ears, so i've pulled it back. I'll give it another go. Also, vocal was recorded on some really cheap mic, low on volume, so i needed to give him a boost with amplifier but then a nasty lowend buzz came in. I should probably record vocals again on a better mic


Posted by Mel David on Sep-21-2019 15:20:

🦉 Hey Gordan, try this. Before the kick drops or main section like a chorus, insert a 1-bar fill section. I find it makes tracks less predictable & turns a 32-bar section to a 33-bar section, which is a Freemasonic number.


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