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de+
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New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church

A couple of days ago Denmark passed legislation that permits homosexual couples to be married in full church ceremonies, but priests will still be able to exercise discretion on whether or not they will wed homosexuals.

Those priests who still say no to wed homosexuals, should in my view be deprived of their office. What do you think?

Old Post Jun-12-2012 01:42  Europe
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Good for Denmark. I'm sure there will be quite a few pissed off religious folks, but surely not all of them. At least it's a step in the right direction.


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A religion should not have to change its customs when they believe that their way is thew way of god. The church likewise should stay out of the affairs of those that are not in the church. But to force a religion to break its own rules is pretty fucking stupid. YOu might as well just ban religion.

You want to be catholic, you follow the rules set by the catholics. You want to get married, get married. That has nothing to do with catholics.

This essentially undermines anyone's right to religion. They are all stupid, they all have silly beliefs. You should stop the church form imposing their beliefs in the secular world but likewise, secularism has no place where consenting adults that abide by a set of rules that apply only to the members that chose to be a member of the group.

honestly, you wouldn't join a nazi cooking club if you were a jew. The church is quite clear on its stance on homosexuality.

And i dislike religion with a passion. But this is just as bad as the church forcing their ways on others.


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Re: New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church

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Those priests who still say no to wed homosexuals, should in my view be deprived of their office. What do you think?


I believe that the priests are in their full right to refuse to marry homosexuals.

Marriage is a Christian tradition between man and woman and not between same sex.

Marriage is sacred and should not be legislated.

Old Post Jun-12-2012 02:01  Finland
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Looney4Clooney
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catholic marriage. They don't own the word. But if you want a catholic wedding, you follow the catholic rules. A Catholic marriage is not some right. Somehow i feel some information is being left out.


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Re: New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church

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What do you think?

That the Church of Denmark is the state church, and it should therefore be under the control of the Danish state. If the Danish state believes homosexuals should be able to get married, then the Church has no say on the matter.

This is, as far as I see, not comparable to the situation in most countries, specially outside Europe.


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Re: New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church

Neither homosexuals nor heterosexuals should be permitted to wed in church, and religious officials such as priests should not have any legal authority to officiate a civil marriage.

All civil marriages should be administered by an appropriate legal official, such as a judge, who has a binding legal duty to uphold the law whether or not they might personally agree with it. If people want to carry out some moth-eaten religious ritual when they marry, then they can arrange that separately with the kooks of their choice.

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Re: Re: New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church

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Marriage is a Christian tradition


Wrong. Marriage has never had anything to do with Christianity.
Here in Denmark, it just happens to be the church who performs the ritual, but marriage is a much older tradition.

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between man and woman and not between same sex


Even if we assume it is Christian, it's still wrong. The Bible says nothing about marriage being between man and woman.

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Marriage is sacred and should not be legislated.


Wrong again. Marriage is not sacred and precisely something you have to legislate, as it is a state institution, with legal consequences.

- But as usual. All arguments against same sex marriage is derived from extreme ignorance and prejudice.

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Re: Re: New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church

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Originally posted by Arbiter
Neither homosexuals nor heterosexuals should be permitted to wed in church, and religious officials such as priests should not have any legal authority to officiate a civil marriage.

All civil marriages should be administered by an appropriate legal official, such as a judge, who has a binding legal duty to uphold the law whether or not they might personally agree with it. If people want to carry out some moth-eaten religious ritual when they marry, then they can arrange that separately with the kooks of their choice.


qft

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Re: Re: Re: New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church

If homosexuality is normal, then there shouldn't be legislation's in favor of it.

Moreover, church and state should be separated.
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Originally posted by Znack


But as usual. All arguments against same sex marriage is derived from extreme ignorance and prejudice.


Isn't that a little prejudiced

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Re: Re: New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church

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Originally posted by Arbiter
Neither homosexuals nor heterosexuals should be permitted to wed in church, and religious officials such as priests should not have any legal authority to officiate a civil marriage.

All civil marriages should be administered by an appropriate legal official, such as a judge, who has a binding legal duty to uphold the law whether or not they might personally agree with it. If people want to carry out some moth-eaten religious ritual when they marry, then they can arrange that separately with the kooks of their choice.

...!?

Wait, that's precisely how it works in Brazil (religious weddings have no legal right) and I've always assume it's the same everywhere else in the world (with Denmark being a case in which the appropriate legal official is a priest subordinate to the government). Does the American legal system recognise religious ceremonies?


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if i lost my virginity to a priest, a faggot should be allowed to marry.

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