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EgosXII
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Registered: Apr 2007
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quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
You can't avoid subjects. Most of postgrad is group work anyway, because people in the work force are expected to work with others productively. It's an essential skill in almost any job. |
sounds like its just your course man... sucks to be in your industry My course was made of electives, so I could avoid any subjects i didn't like, and now i'm in post-grad field its all individual!
I did have some group stuff, but I would just say to the teacher that I would prefer to do it by myself, and it was usually alright. If not, I would just take control of the group, segment the assignment and make sure the others new exactly what they were meant to do, then not talk to them again till they finished it...
but yes, as i said earlier, i know why they do it, but i also know its completely unrealistic and stupid. Have you ever had to complete the type of group assignment they alot you in uni at your workplace?
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Jun-10-2011 23:50
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Joss Weatherby
Banned
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
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quote: | Originally posted by Miss Pie
Like honestly, if a person is too fucking stupid to make it happen in a group, I think it's actually a pretty good barometer by which to measure their professional and interpersonal skills.
If people are so goddamn smart, and group work is such balls - it really shouldn't be a challenge, should it? |
Thats such BS. I think anyone who has worked in group situations have had experiences where some members easily excel but are dragged down by others in the group. Basing a single persons ability on how a group performs is irresponsible.
That is one of the reasons, at least for school things, I always preferred to work solo. Even if I ended up taking on more work myself I at least knew where all the skill levels were for each task, because I was doing all of them. I didn't have to make concessions for people who performed at different levels than myself.
In work situations, I do not mind groups though, but that is usually because, at least in the fields I have worked in, people tend to all be closer in skill level variations, and you have standards and practices to follow on projects.
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Jun-11-2011 00:46
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enydo
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
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I knew a guy in school who was ridiculously smart. Like, holy shit he could code things that would take me and other people 20+ hours in less than half that time, but he was a gigantic asshole. He had one of the most negative attitudes I've ever seen on anyone, basically spiteful towards everyone.
Anyways, I wasn't really friends with him, but I was in several of his classes and had seen him around, so when we had to organize a group for a class me and some friends of mine decided he'd be a great addition since he was so strong with computer science.
What a horrible decision. The kid was so dramatic that he eventually stopped coming to meetings, and stopped responding to emails that we'd send declaring when the group was meeting. He was impossible to communicate with. Instead of trying to help the group in the direction we needed to go for our project to actually work, he'd just continually berate people in group meetings for ideas he deemed "stupid". He built up this idea in his head near the end of the semester that everyone in the group hated him (which at that point, was probably true) which just reinforced his isolation from us. I found out from a guy I worked in a group with the next semester who was friends with him that he'd basically told people he knew that it was all our fault since we hated him and stopped telling him when we were meeting.
He ended up doing literally nothing for the project, contributed nothing during presentations, and just really brought the group down with his attitude. I know that he's interviewed with several bigger companies like Microsoft, Google, etc, but he has yet to get any offers. I'm sure the reason for this is that in interviews he just comes off like a gigantic twat.
University work may not equate to workplace work, but the principles of interaction, communication, and teamwork are relatively the same. If you can't fucking function in school you wont be able to in a workplace, no matter how smart you are.
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Jun-11-2011 00:47
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