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deegee
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2014
Location: Toronto, Canada
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quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
Thanks for completely skipping through my tracks. |
Ok I had a listen. Bear in mind that oldschool techno isn't really my thing (I'll usually go for realllllllllly ultra minimal if I'm going there), so maybe I'm missing the point.
- there's no tension. Trance may be the extreme end of the dance music build/break/release pattern, but all music thrives on the building and release of tension. It's just sort of... here's a loop, 16 bars, here's another. With little-to-no variation, you're missing even little attempts to provide resolutions. You could even try varying every eighth bar of your acid--reverse the pattern or chop it up or fiddle with your cutoff and q.
- you could go the totally opposite direction and aim for more hypnotic, but for that you're going to need to rely on much longer transitions between phrases.
- your transitions are kind of blunt. one of the things about the tension/resolution structure is that every time you resolve, it gives you a natural point to introduce something new.
- The LFO on your filter starting right at the beginning never varies; try playing with it a bit to introduce that tension. It's a fun acid line, so mess with it. Stretch it out, futz around with its speed every 8 or 16 bars, something
- There's sort of a stilted stuttery feel to the perc section. Feels a little bit like that big room Martin Garrix thing without ever quite getting there
I think what I'm trying to say is that the track doesn't quite seem to commit to being any one thing. It's not varied enough to be in your face blistery acid tech, not relaxed enough to be something more minimal and hypnotic. Try pushing way way way too far in one direction, then dial it back to where it's just right. The bones are good, just needs some fluffing here and there.
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Dec-08-2014 19:41
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Ayantmal180
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Dec 2014
Location: Herblay
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Dec-09-2014 02:08
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BshidoHEAT
don't be that guy!!!
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Ninjas never tell....
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Dec-09-2014 02:11
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evo8
Virtual Wannabe
Registered: Aug 2004
Location:
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quote: | Originally posted by deegee
I can't really comment on the track because it's not in a style I really enjoy so I don't think I could be useful. Production seems tight though--and I looooooooove the vocal. Overprocessed for my taste but I like it a lot.
- the clap or snare is distorted in a way that just doesn't work with the rest of the track. try softening it out a bit--it punches too much through the mix for me. After the breakdown it's much better.
- I like that pad/synth sound that shows up around 0:50. Sounds very smooth, for lack of a better term. Probably something I'd fix on if I were hearing it on a dancefloor.
- the off-8 blip at the beginning is just distracting, doesn't feel like it's sitting in the mix
- the vocals also don't feel like they're sitting in the mix--too front and centre. It's a little bit better when the vocal first enters during the breakdown
- I like the breakbeat in the breakdown, though there's some weird stuttering? I'd turn the whole phrase with the kick-snare-kick-snare into a breakbeat
Other than that this feels like it's got some great pieces, but it doesn't feel like it goes much of anywhere. There's no real energy buildup or release, not even just sort of a relentless/driving/hypnotic feel to fit in a set somewhere. I'd like to feel more of a splash when the vocals kick in, you know? Don't get me wrong, I don't think this is terrible; as said above the basic structure is there, just needs some shaping.
Anyone care to have a go at this WIP? I'm mainly at the stage where I'm endlessly fussing with tiny things so I can avoid doing a final mixdown. I'm aware some of the EQ needs work--waiting for some time with a friend's good monitors. Thoughts, anyone? Don't hold back.
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volume is seriously low for some reason, anyway, not sure that kick fits this track, sounds more like a big techno kick, wouldnt be a fan of the overall style of the track, sorry
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Dec-09-2014 13:50
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