Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Pictures of your Home studio
Pages (337): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 [124] 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
Getafix
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Pakistan

I fail to understand why some people will attempt to feign knowledge about something which they are totally clueless about!


___________________
www.soundcloud.com/getafixmusic

Old Post Nov-24-2007 12:08  Pakistan
Click Here to See the Profile for Getafix Click here to Send Getafix a Private Message Visit Getafix's homepage! Add Getafix to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
echosystm
super wow maker



Registered: Jul 2004
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
yo is there bass-driver inside the speakers or is is just the fulltone drive? how much does just the drive costs? i want to build myself monitors too.


I'll answer this...

No, it's just one full range driver. Rich won't tell anyone what driver it is, but I would consider betting my left testicle that it is a Jordan JX92/JX92S.

http://diyparadise.com/shop/index.p...&products_id=23

$390US per pair.


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I've never had a problem with FLs tech support till this day. (I've actually never used it till this day)

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

Old Post Nov-24-2007 23:58  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for echosystm Click here to Send echosystm a Private Message Add echosystm to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
3F05Q
is a horrible artist name



Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Seattle . . . . . Skill Level: Mediocre At Best Clothing: Sometimes

quote:
Originally posted by MegaMan
as far as i can remember, bass travels slower than higher frequencies...


Oh, no.

I'm surprised that nobody has corrected this misconception. For the sake of this discussion, the speed of sound is not a function of frequency. (Except in adiabatic situtations, with specific gasses, in specific frequency ranges, don't quote me on this, please)

Here, get a little education on the behavior of sound waves reflecting off of a surface. SCIENCE!!!!!Shift+1 It's a thing I did a while back to take to high schools and do demonstrations. I did Figure 1 in MS Paint!

Also, nicely enough, Ferry Corsten's "Fire" hits some nice resonant frequencies for demos. I should take video of this when I get back up to Seattle.

Old Post Nov-25-2007 01:21  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for 3F05Q Click here to Send 3F05Q a Private Message Visit 3F05Q's homepage! Add 3F05Q to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
mysticalninja
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles

an 80hz sound wave takes about 10 feet to do a full cycle, compression and refraction. so you wont hear it at its loudest unless your 10 feet away.. this is where the misconception comes from.


___________________


https://soundcloud.com/ghostea stuff

Old Post Nov-25-2007 02:29  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for mysticalninja Click here to Send mysticalninja a Private Message Add mysticalninja to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
echosystm
super wow maker



Registered: Jul 2004
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by 3F05Q
I'm surprised that nobody has corrected this misconception.


quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
what you are confused with is the physical distance it takes for a low frequency wave to develop. this doesn't have a lot to do with standing waves and accoustics really.



___________________
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I've never had a problem with FLs tech support till this day. (I've actually never used it till this day)

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

Old Post Nov-25-2007 03:13  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for echosystm Click here to Send echosystm a Private Message Add echosystm to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
3F05Q
is a horrible artist name



Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Seattle . . . . . Skill Level: Mediocre At Best Clothing: Sometimes

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
the physical distance it takes for a low frequency wave to develop. this doesn't have a lot to do with standing waves and accoustics really.


Explain or reword before I call BS. What do you mean 'develop'? Are you describing a specific situation? You too mysticalninja.

also, you didn't correct his statement regarding speed of sound as a function of frequency directly. You were setting him on the right course, but I feel that there are just some concepts that any producer needs to understand, including the basic nature of sound waves.

Old Post Nov-25-2007 10:29  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for 3F05Q Click here to Send 3F05Q a Private Message Visit 3F05Q's homepage! Add 3F05Q to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
echosystm
super wow maker



Registered: Jul 2004
Location:

he said bass is unimportant because the sound is delayed due to the low frequency. i corrected him, saying that timing is irrelevant (obviously because we're talking about reflections etc.).

i assumed he got his argument confused with the fact that a low frequency sound wave takes a longer physical distance to do one full cycle than high frequency waves - not the effect on accoustics.


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I've never had a problem with FLs tech support till this day. (I've actually never used it till this day)

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

Old Post Nov-25-2007 10:35  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for echosystm Click here to Send echosystm a Private Message Add echosystm to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
3F05Q
is a horrible artist name



Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Seattle . . . . . Skill Level: Mediocre At Best Clothing: Sometimes

No worries Palm, we're good now.

Sorry for being picky with my physics, and I promise to post pictures after I move. Okay?

Old Post Nov-25-2007 17:55  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for 3F05Q Click here to Send 3F05Q a Private Message Visit 3F05Q's homepage! Add 3F05Q to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
varun
Sunbaked



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Bangkok

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
sorry mate, this post is an epic failure.

hs80ms are rear ported. this means the bass flies out the back of the cabinet. bass builds up in corners. his speakers are facing back into a corner.

= standing wave mania.

it is a very bad idea to have your speakers going back into a corner because the frequencies accumulate at a very small point. this happens on all monitors, but really badly on rear ported designs. the reason you have speakers firing down the long end of the room is to reduce late reflections. conversely, you should have them firing accross the short length of a narrow room as it stops early reflections.

he is also massively off axis. unless he sits a good 1-2m back from his computer, hes not on axis. the way the speakers are positioned at the moment makes them akin to headphones, except there will be massive comb filtering in the middle.


Cheers for that mate, I wasn't aware the HS80M's were rear bass-ported.
If so, then all your observations are spot-on


___________________

Spacy dreamer

Old Post Nov-27-2007 09:58  India
Click Here to See the Profile for varun Click here to Send varun a Private Message Add varun to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
echosystm
super wow maker



Registered: Jul 2004
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by varun
Cheers for that mate, I wasn't aware the HS80M's were rear bass-ported.
If so, then all your observations are spot-on


it applies regardless of speaker type


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I've never had a problem with FLs tech support till this day. (I've actually never used it till this day)

quote:
Originally posted by floyd741
i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.

Old Post Nov-28-2007 03:17  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for echosystm Click here to Send echosystm a Private Message Add echosystm to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
varun
Sunbaked



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Bangkok

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
it applies regardless of speaker type


You think so? Actually, my background is not really studio design and setups but, more towards installation audio / pro sound.
In that regard, I'm not really qualified to answer.

However, in my experience, I've kept sub-bass units in the corners of certain rooms and have achieved excellent bass response down to 30 Hz without any noticeable phase cancellation.
Mind you, none of these units were rear-bass ported.
JBL SRX 728S, if you've head of them.

Of course, those rooms were acoustically treated w/ low RT60 / RT30 and great intelligibility to start with.

Personally, I prefer flown-subs w/ line-arrays for larger installations.
It's pretty hard to beat the vertical pattern control, low drop-over distance and the even SPL distribution


___________________

Spacy dreamer

Old Post Nov-28-2007 03:40  India
Click Here to See the Profile for varun Click here to Send varun a Private Message Add varun to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

IMHO, stay the hell away from 2.1 systems. You have to be so particular/precise with a separate sub and someone else just walking in to the room can effect the accoustical dynamics.

With mid or near monitoring systems the sound ideally is the direct output from the speakers with the room tailored as best as possible to reduce colouration (or not as sometimes desired for a particular room "feel").

Flown subs and line arrays are only for live sound reinforcement and while they do offer good clarity for music dependent on good hi frequncy respresentation (classical, vocals etc), I'd take a traditional stack set-up any day for popular music (edm, rock, pop).
LA systems are great in hockey rinks and are actually more efficient in terms of the amount of kit needed (as opposed to regular stacks)but nearly every prolive sound engineer I know perefer stacks.

Old Post Nov-28-2007 20:24 
Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RANN Click here to Send DJ RANN a Private Message Add DJ RANN to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Pictures of your Home studio
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (337): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 [124] 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackID this tune played by Katana@TE2006. EASY ONE GUYS! [2006] [4]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackNative feat Ani - "Fantasy" [2005]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 14:43.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!