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djnitride
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Registered: Nov 2009
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quote:
Originally posted by evo8
one thing ive noticed is that if the source sound isnt up to scratch it doesnt matter how fancy your reverb is

e.g i wouldnt use my Waldorf Q with the filter opened out fully on certain settings as it can get a little harsh and sometimes alias, reverb wont really disguise it

and then on the flipside if you have a really top quality sounding source going into a proper reverb you are on the money

good stuff man, look forward to hearing more from you!


Yeah, I have gotten some good results from KS before but you have to "tame the beast" and work around its limitations, alot of the settings with high numbers of partials in spring resonator mode can have unpleasant resonances. Definitely true about the sound source quality being the most important thing... lipstick on a pig

Still trying to make Kaleidoscope work in the context of the production, completely reworked that part of the song adding in 3 new KS parts that hopefully should be more pleasant to the ears and heavily drawing on my previous ambient work in Kaleidoscope rather than just blind experimentation.



EDIT:

Listened once over and it sounds right.. have a weird recurring bug with certain plugins that can cause things to randomly glitch out unless I reload the preset... sorry for all the edits

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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
Yeah, I have gotten some good results from KS before but you have to "tame the beast" and work around its limitations, alot of the settings with high numbers of partials in spring resonator mode can have unpleasant resonances. Definitely true about the sound source quality being the most important thing... lipstick on a pig

Still trying to make Kaleidoscope work in the context of the production, completely reworked that part of the song adding in 3 new KS parts that hopefully should be more pleasant to the ears and heavily drawing on my previous ambient work in Kaleidoscope rather than just blind experimentation.



EDIT:

Listened once over and it sounds right.. have a weird recurring bug with certain plugins that can cause things to randomly glitch out unless I reload the preset... sorry for all the edits


yes much more relaxing now, the harshness is gone completely, good job......


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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by djnitride
Yeah, I have gotten some good results from KS before but you have to "tame the beast" and work around its limitations, alot of the settings with high numbers of partials in spring resonator mode can have unpleasant resonances. Definitely true about the sound source quality being the most important thing... lipstick on a pig

Still trying to make Kaleidoscope work in the context of the production, completely reworked that part of the song adding in 3 new KS parts that hopefully should be more pleasant to the ears and heavily drawing on my previous ambient work in Kaleidoscope rather than just blind experimentation.



EDIT:

Listened once over and it sounds right.. have a weird recurring bug with certain plugins that can cause things to randomly glitch out unless I reload the preset... sorry for all the edits



Hi

not really familiar with ambient music but gladly offer my opinion!


I like the evolving pad sound, and the intro really captures my attention. cool, spooky atmosphere

not super keen on the "texture" of the reverb sounds a bit distorted/noisy

For me it needs more details/change/evolution to keep interest, also I find the beat too minimal and would like some other percussion

Anyway, all IMO of course keep up the good work


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chris marsh
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Hi all

This is my new WIP

The idea was to kind of mix up garage/drum and bass/jazzy with a full soulful/jazz style vocal etc etc

Im not too keen on the high hats I think they might be a bit too garage/swing and my tone them down a bit

It will have a full vocal (and prob a sax solo later on) so there is plenty of space left for vox

I will fill in more details once song is in place

I have mixed it roughly

Any thoughts welcome


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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
Hi all

This is my new WIP

The idea was to kind of mix up garage/drum and bass/jazzy with a full soulful/jazz style vocal etc etc

Im not too keen on the high hats I think they might be a bit too garage/swing and my tone them down a bit

It will have a full vocal (and prob a sax solo later on) so there is plenty of space left for vox

I will fill in more details once song is in place

I have mixed it roughly

Any thoughts welcome



hi, ill be honest, this isnt doing much for me, something so repetitive as this needs to have something of interest which isnt yet there imo


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chris marsh
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Cool thanks. maybe the vocal and more instruments would do it?


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Cool thanks. maybe the vocal and more instruments would do it?


Yes, it will definitely do (addition of your vocal), but also this organ sound when vocal would come will need to mellow down a bit like decrease attack on it so would give you a really nice and smooth background for (and I could see a female) vocal.

So far so good Chris.

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Feedback welcome.


What would you like to know? - attractiveness, structure, sounds levels or maybe just an idea behind this WIP - just let me/us know?

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pretty much exactly the same track from you every time, its mad! dont u get bored of the same thing every single time???


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djnitride
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Paulino, I do like and appreciate the sound design, but each time you had that "wash" sound come in and it felt like you would change the chord progression of the song to something epic, you just returned the song to how it was before.

You need to bring in some higher pitched leads / pad sounds and do a progression ontop of it. Elements need to evolve and progress, not just repeat over and over in the exact same manner with added elements.

I also felt like while the intro sounded good, it just didn't have enough variation / elements to keep me interested before you did the buildup washes. The percussion plays a big role here in the beginning of the track. You have a good sounding kick, but the rest of the percussion is forgettable IMO.

TLDR: With a simple progression in your songs they would sound so much better.

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Paulino, I do like and appreciate the sound design, but each time you had that "wash" sound come in and it felt like you would change the chord progression of the song to something epic, you just returned the song to how it was before.

You need to bring in some higher pitched leads / pad sounds and do a progression ontop of it. Elements need to evolve and progress, not just repeat over and over in the exact same manner with added elements.

I also felt like while the intro sounded good, it just didn't have enough variation / elements to keep me interested before you did the buildup washes. The percussion plays a big role here in the beginning of the track. You have a good sounding kick, but the rest of the percussion is forgettable IMO.

TLDR: With a simple progression in your songs they would sound so much better.


Thanks Nitride, appreciate it.

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