Becoming corrupted by money, sure, but he took it to a whole other level. He's hurt everyone who cares about him, he's killed people who shouldn't have been killed to protect himself. He's just a bad dude.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 The show evolved with people sympathizing with Walt at first and thinking Jessie was just some drug addicted loser. As the show went on, Walt became a monster and Jessie developed a conscious. With the bad things happening over and over to Jessie, all pretty much being Walt's fault. At this point, viewers should sympathize with Jessie and realize how sick of a human being Walt is. Anybody still sympathizing with Walt is completely missing that.

Oh, Jessie developed a conscious, poor Jessie!
At the end of the day it does not matter who they are (both retired), its the shit they've both done, lets not forget about the devastating impact of producing a deadly drug in such commercial quantities for such a long time.

I don't give 2shits about Jessie having bad feelings about the things he has done, he deserves to be punished just like Walt and even more because he ACTUALLY BELIEVES he is any better than him.

Just like Hank said: "The kid"? Oh, you mean the junkie murderer that's dribbling all over my guest bathroom floor?"

^That quote is a massage from the writers imo.

And Jessie had plenty of checkpoints to retire throughout the series, he even blackmailed Walt and forced him to bring him back at some point.
Jessie wanted to be a part of the game without actually doing the dirty work and now he snitches on Walt to get even with him, he even snitched about Walt running over some guys to save his life! jesus, what a scumbag.

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Originally posted by Viber ^That quote is a massage from the writers imo.

Boy, did they ever massage us well during that scene. I felt so rejuvenated after Sunday's episode, didn't you?

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Originally posted by Viber Oh, Jessie developed a conscious, poor Jessie! At the end of the day it does not matter who they are (both retired), its the shit they've both done, lets not forget about the devastating impact of producing a deadly drug in such commercial quantities for such a long time. I don't give 2shits about Jessie having bad feelings about the things he has done, he deserves to be punished just like Walt and even more because he ACTUALLY BELIEVES he is any better than him. Just like Hank said: "The kid"? Oh, you mean the junkie murderer that's dribbling all over my guest bathroom floor?" ^That quote is a massage from the writers imo. And Jessie had plenty of checkpoints to retire throughout the series, he even blackmailed Walt and forced him to bring him back at some point. Jessie wanted to be a part of the game without actually doing the dirty work and now he snitches on Walt to get even with him, he even snitched about Walt running over some guys to save his life! jesus, what a scumbag.

No.

Jessie never did anything THAT bad other than killing Gail, which Walt of course manipulated him into doing. I just can't believe you think Walt is better than Jessie. That's crazy talk.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

"manipulated him into doing"? how many people can be manipulated into murdering somebody? why cant Jessie take responsibility over his actions? because he is a dumbass and Walt is a genius? because Walt is a a leader and he's just the follower?

And again, Jessie produced massive quantities of a destructive drug, he has many victims on his head, thousands of victims on his head but only when he sees the victim looking in his eyes he actually feels bad about it.

Walt is no better than Jessie, they are both shitbags but at least Walt respected the most basic code among criminals and at least he knows he is the villain ("the one who knocks") instead of pretending to be a saint.
How can you rat on someone saying he ran over 2 guys when in fact he did this to save YOU?

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Originally posted by bananas I understand that no way this ends in him "winning" somehow. This was always going the Walt's turning into a monster and then dying way.

I'm betting he doesn't die. Just a hunch.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Becoming corrupted by money, sure, but he took it to a whole other level. He's hurt everyone who cares about him, he's killed people who shouldn't have been killed to protect himself. He's just a bad dude.

I'd say it was more ego that did him in than anything else.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 The show evolved with people sympathizing with Walt at first and thinking Jessie was just some drug addicted loser. As the show went on, Walt became a monster and Jessie developed a conscious. With the bad things happening over and over to Jessie, all pretty much being Walt's fault. At this point, viewers should sympathize with Jessie and realize how sick of a human being Walt is. Anybody still sympathizing with Walt is completely missing that.

Dude, it's a TV show, nobody's missing anything, we can see Walt's a monster, haven't you ever rooted for the bad guy?

And Jessie didn't develop a conscious, he always had one

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Originally posted by WittyHandle I'm betting he doesn't die. Just a hunch.

Hmm, but if he's not getting murdered then the cancer kills him, no way out?

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Originally posted by Viber "manipulated him into doing"? how many people can be manipulated into murdering somebody? why cant Jessie take responsibility over his actions? because he is a dumbass and Walt is a genius? because Walt is a a leader and he's just the follower? And again, Jessie produced massive quantities of a destructive drug, he has many victims on his head, thousands of victims on his head but only when he sees the victim looking in his eyes he actually feels bad about it. Walt is no better than Jessie, they are both shitbags but at least Walt respected the most basic code among criminals and at least he knows he is the villain ("the one who knocks") instead of pretending to be a saint. How can you rat on someone saying he ran over 2 guys when in fact he did this to save YOU?

completely disagree. but im not gonna argue it here.

Again, anybody sympathizing Walt is missing the point. You're supposed to hate him. That's the point.

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