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Zak McKracken
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awesome cables. totaly not worth it though, especially in the production setup as you can modify the sound as you like to "fix" whatever shit your cables make. only the monitoring chain needs good cables

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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by clay
awesome cables. totaly not worth it though, especially in the production setup as you can modify the sound as you like to "fix" whatever shit your cables make. only the monitoring chain needs good cables

I'm not going there, you can google my speaker cable if you like: Audioquest K2...


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The Dark NINJA
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Cables won't make a difference?

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Raphie
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Cables won't make a difference?
That's what some think, I beg to differ.


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DJ RANN
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I beg to differ in the strongest possible terms.

That is a fucking sweet setup Raphie - seeing the blue studio grade totally takes me back a few years. If you get a chance, unscrew say one of the connectors and look at the craftsmanship on solder. It really is a thing to behold.

What most people don't realize is that when you're using class-a equipment and have very serious outboard all patched up, small factors become a big deal, cables one of those. I tried a 15 foot run balanced no name cable just to patch to my living room hifi and the difference between that and my Van Damme was instantly noticeable (and my hifi isn't even anything special).

Sure, there's no point buying good cables when you've got a consumer soundcard, entry level monitors and are making dubstep, but when all other things are equal, you have to be a dumbass not to invest.

Even for my DJ setup - I've got the best decks, the best needles and I'm using one of the best DJ mixers ever made, going to fairly decent monitors. Even that warrants spending on good cables.

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Zak McKracken
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as i tried to point out is that cables is important in the monitoring chain, but not the instrument and efex chains as these are modified to your liking anyway.

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Raphie
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Originally posted by clay
as i tried to point out is that cables is important in the monitoring chain, but not the instrument and efex chains as these are modified to your liking anyway.
You ca't modify what you can't hear


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Zak McKracken
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yes thats exactly what we do in the production state. does your instrument lack a little treble? add some eq. thats my point entirely. the creative part does not need fancy gear, only high creativity and great monitoring. the listener on the other hand needs exceptional gear to be able to recreate what the artist had in mind. i know cables are important but not in all chains. you could have bought another synth instead and this tells me you really dont know what youre doing - almost on the level of jaun paulino. unless you, infact only work with post production. then i get it....

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Raphie
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Ok i'll bite:

My instrument cables are all AVID Digidesign Digisnakes, they are pretty much best price performance in db25 multicore cabling, not the best, but no HOSA either.

I can hear the difference between those and my Vandammes, which I use on my mastering chain, my summing signal path and my patchpanel (setting up tne chain)

IMHO, choosing instruments, or choosing sound transport are 2 different discussion. One is around sound design, the other is about accuracy. I hope you understand the difference?

Now, if you do, you can then argue if one is better of with investing more in signal path, or more sources? I cannot answer that question for you, but for me it was signal path in this stage. I don't really need more sources.

Then there is yet another dimension, which is funds and how much you want to spend on a studio. For my purpose I know have a very versatile and balanced setup. I can work both ITB or OTB or hybrid. a pristine signal path is crucial for my setup.

anyway, i have a bunch of redundant hosa, digisnakes and planet waves now on sale. If I would not be hearing a difference, I would not have replaced those.


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tehlord
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quote:
Originally posted by clay
yes thats exactly what we do in the production state. does your instrument lack a little treble? add some eq. thats my point entirely. the creative part does not need fancy gear, only high creativity and great monitoring. the listener on the other hand needs exceptional gear to be able to recreate what the artist had in mind. i know cables are important but not in all chains. you could have bought another synth instead and this tells me you really dont know what youre doing - almost on the level of jaun paulino. unless you, infact only work with post production. then i get it....


As I became older, I started to put personal pride before 'more'.

I bet that filters through to creativity on some level.

And for me, the little extras do make a difference and they do matter.


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Zak McKracken
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anyway back to thread.
heres where i control check my mixdowns and listen to music when my GF is sick of me:


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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
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quote:
Originally posted by clay
anyway back to thread.
heres where i control check my mixdowns and listen to music when my GF is sick of me:




Quite boomy i think? spare bedroom near empty converted to "listening room" but at least you got some kind of man cave. Now before debating cables, I would look into acoustics in that room if you want to improve accuracy.


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