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Originally posted by MSZ Im trying to brute force this so I can hand it in, some dissonance will remain probably, fuck it doe. Probably what im going to leave it at. Didnt include the breakdown/post but ill leave that the way it was to add contrast and I resampled in some choirs in the ending part, didnt snag that part though.

Great sounds here, you always have good individual sounds, I'd be interested to know your go to synth (I could tweak forever with the synths I have and not achieve those choir sounds for example).

Really like the kick and the unusual sound and timing of the bass although the dissonance does deter me some. The kik n bass alone have the makings of a great techno track.

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Originally posted by kadomony RANN told me i should post in here more, so here's a revision of the previous WIP i posted. went with a less intense bass and diff chord structure and feel. kinda loop-ish at the moment, but will be working on transitions and automation

Decent groove. As you say you have work to do, if you are interested in my input I would suggest a shorter less loud style of open hat to help the groove along and also really tight drum sounds overall to compliment the bass. The clap is nice n tight. Like the little almost imperceptible vocals in the background.

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In addition to Richard's remarks I would go for a more donk-ish percussive bass you hear in deephouse often these days. Will add groove and fits better with current style.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Awesome Rich. Reminds me of the stuff some higher end clothing stores are playing these days (often a playlist with popular EDM songs).

Thanks to you, Andy, Evo, Darek and Storyteller for the feed. I think it needs quite a bit of 'taming'. I plan to strip out some of the vocals, layer them with darker more natural atmospheric and church reverb vocals. I am perhaps going to make the open filter main trancey synth a bit 'cooler' and less 'bubble-gum / Mario' sounding iykwim.

As I have the structure and everything worked out it will be one I can finish.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Right, here we go then. This is going to take absolutely stupid amount of work to get finished, especially because I'm experimenting with some things I've never used before. It'll probably end up being several different parts.

I can see this as set open type track, but for this to work you will need to lay down top notch sounds because style wise it isn't anything out of the ordinary. For example a not so obvious bass and kik sound. Knowing you you might well pull it off.

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Originally posted by Raphie some sound design in progress, want to end up with something tribal / dub techno deep thingy.... not really a song yet, just a jam mixing the elements,finding sweetspots, but you'll get the flavour

I didn't feed back on this until now as I needed a few listens over the days.
It's definitely the case that you can hear the analogue sonic goodness in here, but for me to enjoy it more I need to here it mixed better (as you say it's early days with it, you're just getting the basics down), in particular the removal of the 200 - 400 hz boxy / boomy freqs.

One thing with this type of production I would suggest is not do end up with a 'noodle in a gear shop' result which all too often this type of track ends up resembling.
I want to hear some proper motifs of some sort, some sort of cohesive work rather than nice sounding bass sequence with some fx sounds added on. This is what will set it apart from the many 'noodling' session type tracks out there.

When feeding back to you I know you have very definite ideas and a stubborn strong personality, so I feel like I'm the boy trying to give advice to the master, lol!

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Originally posted by Richard Butler I can see this as set open type track, but for this to work you will need to lay down top notch sounds because style wise it isn't anything out of the ordinary. For example a not so obvious bass and kik sound. Knowing you you might well pull it off.

Thanks. It probably won't end up being club music at all, and it might all be just a part of a larger whole. I've got some pretty wild ideas for it.

I feel like the past 10 years of producing have been just a practice phase and I'm on the brink of discovering "that something" I've been trying to find.

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Originally posted by MSZ Im trying to brute force this so I can hand it in, some dissonance will remain probably, fuck it doe. Probably what im going to leave it at. Didnt include the breakdown/post but ill leave that the way it was to add contrast and I resampled in some choirs in the ending part, didnt snag that part though.

that pad in the background just doesnt fit with the bass in some parts but anyway......

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Decent groove. As you say you have work to do, if you are interested in my input I would suggest a shorter less loud style of open hat to help the groove along and also really tight drum sounds overall to compliment the bass. The clap is nice n tight. Like the little almost imperceptible vocals in the background.

cheers man, will take that into consideration. drums arent mixed or processed at the moment, but ill shorten up that bigger hihat and check it out

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Originally posted by Storyteller In addition to Richard's remarks I would go for a more donk-ish percussive bass you hear in deephouse often these days. Will add groove and fits better with current style.

that's what i had in my first version, but it was really intense for the groove. i'll work on trying out some other donk-ish stuff and see if i can get a better fit. thanks!

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Originally posted by itsamemario Oh and I've talked about tracks so now I can post a new one Here's something I did today, a little different, but it's def. still work in progress. First track that I've recorded like this, and also the first 100% made in Live. Lolpad edition :P Anyways yeah, the intro is kinda whack, I'd been trying to keep the track under 10 mins, and well, the intro is not the best one Ive performed, but all the other tries ending in complete failure, so I guess this will have to do haha :P

i'm liking this! great warehouse jackin vibe

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Originally posted by Richard Butler This was meant to be deep house but took a bit of a different turn. How is the mix and everything your end?

Just my 2cents, I'll try to be picky and you can take what you will.

The kick is releasinga little bit of static, distortion maybe, a tiny bit dont know if you caught it. I dont know if you're eq dipping the bass or its the cut off, I feel it could extend further a little bit and hit more mids(it will give them a less boxed-in feel and could benefit the track imo). In relation to the mids, maybe the vocals are cutting into that section I was referring to a little too much, I think you can eq them a little better, they're mostly great though however, they are hitting the threshold of agitation/discomfort. I digg the track though, nice one.

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Originally posted by Raphie some sound design in progress, want to end up with something tribal / dub techno deep thingy.... not really a song yet, just a jam mixing the elements,finding sweetspots, but you'll get the flavour

Shit sounds slammin, mixdown reminds me of what I do best.