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Richard Butler
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Registered: Apr 2009
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Which of those two version of the same production is most appealing to you:

1. Vocal version but those are only a short verses and repeated few time for space reservation - you can have a sense of style of this vocal which to me is really interesting and adding a spark to this track.



2. Instrumental version



Instrumental is a bit easy for release as you own 100% royalties lol but vocal one add some attractiveness to this production.

Which one do you like the most?


Darek



I prefer this without vocals man

Nice melodies and use of echo / verb on them but it sound a bit iffy on the drums


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Richard Butler
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Here's the final WIP in the 3 tracks I'm going to be sending out (inc' the most recent 2 on here)

I think this is the strongest but it almost made itself, never found a track this easy

Need fresh ears on the mix

https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/dark-sex


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theterran
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Registered: Mar 2010
Location: Texass

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's the final WIP in the 3 tracks I'm going to be sending out (inc' the most recent 2 on here)

I think this is the strongest but it almost made itself, never found a track this easy

Need fresh ears on the mix

https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/dark-sex


Definitely - Make Me Sad > Dark Sex > First Contact in terms of overall production for the set imo. Musicality / Mix / etc...

Dark Sex Mix sounds pretty balanced overall. I can't turn it up past 50% volume on my headphones though, My Cans do not like that mix at higher volumes "for some reason". Seems ok on the hi-fi system and 50m's though.

There's also a piece of drumkit that comes in at 2:45 that "sticks" out volume-wise. Not too much, just enough to be distracting / irritating.

Not going to give more specific critique than that though. I know what SC does, especially to hihats. They come across *slightly* harsh to me on the stream, which means they're probably fine in a higher quality format.

Make Me Sad is definitely winner winner chicken dinner for that set though. Good work, good luck.

Last edited by theterran on Dec-16-2017 at 06:49

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I think Make Me Sad is the pick of the 3 Rich


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's the final WIP in the 3 tracks I'm going to be sending out (inc' the most recent 2 on here)

I think this is the strongest but it almost made itself, never found a track this easy

Need fresh ears on the mix

https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/dark-sex

The low end is WAY too boomy for my liking here.


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SystematicX1
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Registered: Sep 2010
Location: Las Vegas

https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/dark-sex

Really dig this, got kind of this tech vs house thing going on. Dig it. It is boomy, but feels intentional, which imo is good. It seems to fit and almost has that kind of "arguru" vibe to it.
I know one thing for sure, my girlfriend was dancing to it all the way through...lol which is rare..lol


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Need some opinions on this. Pulled this out of the cobwebs.
It is a remix,it is Katy perry (heads up) /grins
I kinda don't want to post much on it because I am hoping some will pick up on the areas I am seeing need focusing on.


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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/dark-sex

Really dig this, got kind of this tech vs house thing going on. Dig it. It is boomy, but feels intentional, which imo is good. It seems to fit and almost has that kind of "arguru" vibe to it.
I know one thing for sure, my girlfriend was dancing to it all the way through...lol which is rare..lol


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Need some opinions on this. Pulled this out of the cobwebs.
It is a remix,it is Katy perry (heads up) /grins
I kinda don't want to post much on it because I am hoping some will pick up on the areas I am seeing need focusing on.



its too static imo, nothing really driving the track, not gone on the kick/bass combo


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theterran
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Registered: Mar 2010
Location: Texass

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
its too static imo, nothing really driving the track, not gone on the kick/bass combo


/agree

Also don't think the other stuff supports/blends with the vocals very well either. Sounds like Katy Perry dropped on a sparse mix. I mean, each individual instrument sounds good, but the total sound doesn't blend well.

Katy Perry anything always tends to have a big sound associated with it. She's pretty go big or go home most of the time.

Still only 1 Katy Perry remix I can stomach, and that's the ET Remix by Noisia...but that's because Noisia is just...that...awesome.

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TranceLover007
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Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's the final WIP in the 3 tracks I'm going to be sending out (inc' the most recent 2 on here)

I think this is the strongest but it almost made itself, never found a track this easy

Need fresh ears on the mix

https://soundcloud.com/butlerrichard/dark-sex


If I had to choose one of those track (and this is not my style lol) I would go for -> First Contact then Make Me Sad.

Cheers,

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theterran
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Welp, intro's done. Think the song's about 80-90% there...Ran outta creative gas, but I think the intro / breakdown / buildup ended up being "ok". Oh well. Tried for a story-like arrangement, with a lighter tone in the beginning, transitioning into the darker one after the first breakdown. Plenty of space to mix in with I guess. Friends who listened have said the second build-up / transition is a little too jarring @ 5:09'ish. Maybe a more pronounced build there is needed.

Still experimenting with sound FX and tweaking the mix here and there...My sfx library is pretty slim, so I ended up making some that I thought would compliment the vibe of the tune. I'd like to tie them into the song a little better though.

Spent a little more time on the low-end, should be a bit better now.

Still on the fence about the backing arps I made with Sylenth. They fit the overall mix, but sound a little anemic with less going on. Also not a fan of sylenth and its' squishy sounding resonance...but it's the one synth that produces that darker, techy trance-pluck I like.

Added a *little* variance to the hats. Any more is too distracting, I think.

Should be pretty easy to master this one too, plenty of headroom to work with.

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fuxzz
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Location: Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by theterran
Welp, intro's done. Think the song's about 80-90% there...Ran outta creative gas, but I think the intro / breakdown / buildup ended up being "ok". Oh well. Tried for a story-like arrangement, with a lighter tone in the beginning, transitioning into the darker one after the first breakdown. Plenty of space to mix in with I guess. Friends who listened have said the second build-up / transition is a little too jarring @ 5:09'ish. Maybe a more pronounced build there is needed.

Still experimenting with sound FX and tweaking the mix here and there...My sfx library is pretty slim, so I ended up making some that I thought would compliment the vibe of the tune. I'd like to tie them into the song a little better though.

Spent a little more time on the low-end, should be a bit better now.

Still on the fence about the backing arps I made with Sylenth. They fit the overall mix, but sound a little anemic with less going on. Also not a fan of sylenth and its' squishy sounding resonance...but it's the one synth that produces that darker, techy trance-pluck I like.

Added a *little* variance to the hats. Any more is too distracting, I think.

Should be pretty easy to master this one too, plenty of headroom to work with.



Really like this. Lovely atmosphere. The pad pattern gets a little repetitive towards the end of the intro in my opinion. Maybe you could break it up with some small variation to the chord progression? Just lift the last note instead of letting it fall in some occasion, maybe at 2:05.

I like the foundation of that build you talked about, and especially the drop, it suits the track with that kind of relaxed build up. But I agree that maybe something could be done to make the middle of the break a little more interesting.

Maybe you should take a break from it, and come back with fresh ears in a couple of weeks/months? That should do the trick if you donít really feel it at the moment. It is better to let it take itís time, than forcing it.

As you said, you are almost done, I would say you are 90-95% there, no need to overdo it either. The overall impression is great, looking forward to the final product!
Good luck.

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theterran
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Glad you liked it fuxzz, and I appreciate the time you took to listen and provide feedback!

Could definitely progress the pads a little more towards the first minor build at 2:35. I did end up skimping on the first section a bit in favor of getting the arranging done. The pads do drop down at around 2:35'ish, so I can easily work towards that shift a little sooner.

Definitely needs some more going on in the middle of that first break to make the transition into 5:09 a little less contrasting/jarring. Getting pretty unanimous feedback on this from my friends who have listened. The tricky part is going to be getting the intensity right without having it sound rushed or forced.

If my usual approach to adding the finishing touches doesn't work, I'll end up taking a break yeah. No need to force it, like you said.

thanks again!

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