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TranceLover007
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Registered: Sep 2009
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Just Quick Concept for Delelopment

This is just fresh concept which I started to work on yesterday - still lots of things to improve (like intro drums, bass variations, ect.) but overall idea is already there:



Thank guys.

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil and Manaus, Brazil

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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Lira,

nice to see you again on this site of the forum lol -> my first impression (after two runs) is that your production is on dry site (or flat) and this my be the reason why people don't want to comment on your track (or like it ) - you have some cool things happening in it but your delivery doesn't do the justice

Thanks for the welcome! And, yeah, I was looking for feedback because it's been ages since I last hung around here, and I know there's still much to learn to get that extra "oomph"

The flat bit you mentioned is what you're saying about bass and drums below, or do you think it could use some more variation with the different elements?
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Drums variation are good but again no punch (drive) is making it stand out and is not driving this whole track.

Roger that.
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
As far as your bass, try to change your pattern to create some movement.

Note taken!
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Also I would use some reverb to add some dramatic effect (in some parts of your production).

Is there a specific element in particular that you think needs some more reverberation?
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Overall idea sounds really cool and remind me on 007 James Bond soundtrack

Thanks!
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Originally posted by gordan100
I like it, it's a cool idea. At 3:00 i would maybe put some contrast to that theme you are playing before continuing with it.

Good idea, thanks!

As for the mix, I often struggle with it myself, so I'm sure I can learn from you if you have an idea


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TranceLover007
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Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Thanks for the welcome! And, yeah, I was looking for feedback because it's been ages since I last hung around here, and I know there's still much to learn to get that extra "oomph"

The flat bit you mentioned is what you're saying about bass and drums below, or do you think it could use some more variation with the different elements?

Roger that.

Note taken!

Is there a specific element in particular that you think needs some more reverberation?

Thanks!


This flat/dry element is a complex subject in this case (don't get me to serious lol - I'm not theory gig and never will be lol) - I think it is variation in instruments choices, sounds levels, drums pick, overall mix and balancing overall progression development - I usually start with drums and bass line to create good movement/vibe then I'm adding some instruments one by one for melodic concept - hopefully this make any sense

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gordan100
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Registered: Apr 2011
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Re: Just Quick Concept for Delelopment

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Originally posted by TranceLover007
This is just fresh concept which I started to work on yesterday - still lots of things to improve (like intro drums, bass variations, ect.) but overall idea is already there:



Thank guys.

Darek


I like the kick, but there is no groove at the start Darek, that pad starting at 0:16 does not produce enough groove imo and it's too simple, and bass at 0:31 is bloodless and did not help. Also, everything start to sound a bit lofi when beefed up snare hits at 0:31. Arp is a bit dull when static, but it start to work for me after 2:04 and you could maybe do something with that.

I have a feeling that you are starting from intro and then trying to get something out of it. That rarely works for me. Not saying it's better in general but i usually start from climax of the track, maybe that way will work better for you too. Cheers!


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Re: Re: Just Quick Concept for Delelopment

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I like the kick, but there is no groove at the start Darek, that pad starting at 0:16 does not produce enough groove imo and it's too simple, and bass at 0:31 is bloodless and did not help. Also, everything start to sound a bit lofi when beefed up snare hits at 0:31. Arp is a bit dull when static, but it start to work for me after 2:04 and you could maybe do something with that.

I have a feeling that you are starting from intro and then trying to get something out of it. That rarely works for me. Not saying it's better in general but i usually start from climax of the track, maybe that way will work better for you too. Cheers!


Yes, as I mention in my post that intro drums will need to be develop a bit more to have some cool groove in it but this was my last worry element in this whole WIP - in this Progressive-Chill-House track my emphasis was put on slowly unwinding melodic development with different instruments sounds rolling through this track with its own melodic pattern - also I never start my work on any track with intro - always with melodic chords pattern and everything build around it

Added: Also bass pattern will be rework in second part of the track.

Cheers mate and appreciate your word

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Evolve140
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Denver

hey buds, been a while. this not technically a WIP but I've been balls deep in production lately fortunately, had some sporadic breaks from music past year or 2 due to, well, life... will make an effort to come through and feedback some of your tunes here.

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hey buds, been a while. this not technically a WIP but I've been balls deep in production lately fortunately, had some sporadic breaks from music past year or 2 due to, well, life... will make an effort to come through and feedback some of your tunes here.



I like it, production is very good. It would be a nice background music for some horror fps


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Hey Gordan - try to space your instruments out a bit more. To my ears it sounds like the underlying pad is playing in the same range as the sinusoidal plucked sound - try to eq this sine sound in the mix and without looking at the screen, cut it until you can actually hear it losing mid

I would also mono a bit more of the low end of the mix, Live has a nice plugin called Utility for this, not sure what DAW you are on

Also drums might need some variation - i really like the intro but it gets slightly drowned out, you bring down the pad/pluck by 1-3db until it sits better

any chance I could do a remix of this? im struggling to do any tracks of my own right now


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Hey Gordan - try to space your instruments out a bit more. To my ears it sounds like the underlying pad is playing in the same range as the sinusoidal plucked sound - try to eq this sine sound in the mix and without looking at the screen, cut it until you can actually hear it losing mid

I would also mono a bit more of the low end of the mix, Live has a nice plugin called Utility for this, not sure what DAW you are on

Also drums might need some variation - i really like the intro but it gets slightly drowned out, you bring down the pad/pluck by 1-3db until it sits better

any chance I could do a remix of this? im struggling to do any tracks of my own right now


Hey, thanks for all the advices! Sure you can do a remix, pm me with what you need from me.


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just a little snippet of remix, been on this for the weekend, not even sure i like it anymore, anyway


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I like how it sounds so far. It's short though, don't know where it's going yet


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