Originally posted by theterran
I was actually just talking to a friend in LA who does his own recordings about this. (He's in a "rock" band) He was saying how tedious pro-tools was for making adjustments when routing in multiple tracks, and how he loves Reaper now...
Haven't messed around with live recording myself. Seems like it would be really fun. Props though, live recording is like, the hardest form of music...much easier sequencing everything out in a piano roll, that's for sure.
Thanks, man. Yeah, I mean, live recording is pretty much all I've ever known - for better or worse. I'm under the impression, however, that if I'm using a bunch of different instruments/machines and synths, multitracking may make the track sound better/fuller, so perhaps it's worth learning down the road if I continue to make tracks using more than just a drum machine and 303/x0xb0x.
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Originally posted by Richard Butler
Sooo, the kick n bass - feelin it or not?
I'm feelin' the bass, but not so sure about the kick, personally. I would try maybe using a 909-esque-sounding kick, if possible, and see how it compares. Or perhaps a similar kick they use in these recent ebm/new wave productions - but that's just me.
Last edited by AlphaStarred on Jan-13-2018 at 23:58
Jan-13-2018 23:53
gordan100
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Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Originally posted by Richard Butler
So I've been at this one on and off for months.
It's my take on 80's meets current electronica,..hopefully.
Those of you who recall Gary Numan will hear some echo's harking back.
Please bare with having to go to Soundcloud I have emailed them to ask why I can no longer embed
Originally posted by gordan100
Thanks I did I'm really very tired from that shit. I will not touch it for a month at least, if ever
I was washing my ears with tweaking an old one. Don't know if it's any good, I've overcomplicated in second break i think.
Previous track you posted from this had, I'm sorry to say, a fairly terrible mix...Dynamic range was squashed, and the stereo is way too wide. Lots of harsh mid-highs and high end as well, made my ears hurt a little bit, even at lower volume. Sounds to me like you were trying to master it with ear fatigue.
It's good to give your ears 3-4 days of rest before attempting a final mixdown / master...You lose sensitivity to alot of the mid-> high range with ear fatigue, and your mixes will come out harsh as fuck. When you go for the final mix-down / master it's also good to make adjustments as quickly and efficiently as possible...or else : ear fatigue.
The next one holds some promise. Mix is decent. Pretty interesting, and a good vibe up until 4:06. I personally don't like that delayed instrument you add in there...Was hoping for something a little more melodic / chilled out.
keep at it...
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Jan-15-2018 11:06
Richard Butler
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Location: London
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Originally posted by gordan100
It would sound much better with different kick, i agree. It's somehow too lo-fi for the rest of the track imo. Nice bass.
Regarding embed from sc... Do you get the overlay window when you click on share button?
Firstly to you 3 guys that feedback about kick - yes it does sound very low-fi n dry doesn't it, I've tried many different kicks so far, the search continues...... I'm finding deeper 909 type kicks take away from the strings in the drop which are the central theme for me.
SOUNDCLOUD ISSUE - so I used to get that overlay screen when click the share button, but now I just get a translucent white screen with no codes or anything to embed. Sent Soundcloud an enquiry about this but all they sent back was a feedback survey asking how I found their service reply to my query!
Originally posted by gordan100
Thanks I did I'm really very tired from that shit. I will not touch it for a month at least, if ever
I was washing my ears with tweaking an old one. Don't know if it's any good, I've overcomplicated in second break i think.
Overall a decent vibe but 3 crits for ya;
Hatz are too loud and distracting me.
Bass jumps out of the mix on certain notes, just needs a little taming.
It's a bit samey after a while, needs some journey.
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Firstly to you 3 guys that feedback about kick - yes it does sound very low-fi n dry doesn't it, I've tried many different kicks so far, the search continues...... I'm finding deeper 909 type kicks take away from the strings in the drop which are the central theme for me.
SOUNDCLOUD ISSUE - so I used to get that overlay screen when click the share button, but now I just get a translucent white screen with no codes or anything to embed. Sent Soundcloud an enquiry about this but all they sent back was a feedback survey asking how I found their service reply to my query!
Did you try with different browsers, chrome or edge, i don't know what are you using now?
Thanks TheTerran and Richard for comments. Yeah, i don't like the delayed sound anymore too and bass gets boring quickly. I think that first version of this is still better.
Originally posted by gordan100
Thanks I did I'm really very tired from that shit. I will not touch it for a month at least, if ever
I was washing my ears with tweaking an old one. Don't know if it's any good, I've overcomplicated in second break i think.
Musically, I like this one. Its a style I'd listen to. It has a potential to be very lush yet hypnotic in some elements.
Mix wise - I don't think the stereo imaging is correct. the low mids sound too wide, so they lack the firmness. The pad - it is very "out there" and sounds like it is a bit drowned in reverb and too wide for it's own good, and it just falls out of focus. Perhaps if it had a mono low-end layer added to it would anchor it more.
Not a fan of the delayed bass(not the static one) sound at all but that might just be a matter of taste. I have a feeling that it was supposed to work as a hook, but it just doesn't IMO and frankly it is a boring sound/set of notes.
As I said I like the track, it reminds me of some of Hiroshi Watanabe's older work on Kompakt , and he is one of my all time favorite producers, so there is that.
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Jan-16-2018 00:29
theterran
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There, pretty much done with this one.
Even went the whole 9 and upped to youtube for that 192 kbps bitrate.
Cleaned up some artifacts at the very start.
Did some nuancy stuff and synth balancing.
Played with more of the FX noises that come in and out...
Too late now, but if I struggle with bass presets in the future I'm building my own from init. Too used to this bass sound now to switch. Loses power at A#3 @50hz for some reason...just the nature of this bass(es). Did the best I could with some fine frequency tuning, delay / sustain adjustment and more work with the compressor and eq.
Programmed my own 3-layer white noise to mesh in with the whoosh FX I used. I liked the woosh, but I wanted more control. Hopefully I got close enough where it's not distracting.
Added more oomph to downlifter.
Played around with the pads more after the 1st break. Should have a little more going on, but overall I'm keeping the 2nd build-up the way it is. I compensated for the lack of instruments going into the 2nd build-up by hitting the main theme softer, and building up more into the peak before the 2nd break-down.
Added a light array of processing to the master bus.