Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Don't you believe that the inception of government is the reaction to individual irresponsibility in the first place?
Irresponsibility is the constant.
Pretty much, which is why its funny to see people essentially wanting to go back to a feudal, dark ages state in the country.
Jun-27-2011 17:08
Silky Johnson
International Playa Hater
Registered: Nov 2003
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Miss Pie
So Nou, in what specific ways do you contribute to community capacity? How are you making the world around you a better, more responsible place? What partnerships have you formed in the community and what people do you collaborate with to help improve the conditions threatening society the most - like poverty? Just curious.
Jun-27-2011 17:10
shaw
RIP
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Intergalactic Mimosa Station
Relax, Jenny. He's still typing. The list is THAT LONG.
Jun-27-2011 17:12
Silky Johnson
International Playa Hater
Registered: Nov 2003
Location:
Jun-27-2011 17:12
shaw
RIP
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Intergalactic Mimosa Station
At this point, we can only assume he got called in to work for an emergency.
Jun-27-2011 17:16
Joss Weatherby
Banned
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by Miss Pie
So Nou, in what specific ways do you contribute to community capacity? How are you making the world around you a better, more responsible place? What partnerships have you formed in the community and what people do you collaborate with to help improve the conditions threatening society the most - like poverty? Just curious.
I don't have the means right now to do so, and if I did I am not sure of what I would do, at least in regards to poverty. Honestly, poverty is a very complex issue that can not be solved by throwing money at it, it is a product of societal ills that allow vast poverty to occur. I do not have the answers to fix those either, let alone the means.
I can spot the issues though, as many can. Unfortunately I am unable to speak of anything I do contribute, so yes I am being hypocritical to some degree, but it is good to have a persistent and annoying voice shouting at people.
Honestly though, if I did have the money I'd find the best way to invest it in infrastructure, even though that is a job best left to the state. I'd probably also spend my money on initiatives to reform tax law, so we create a country where corporations and wealthy people that exist here contribute back more than their fair share of money.
Individuals alone though sadly have little power, you need coalitions and popular ideas with the backing of masses. Unfortunately in this country it is probably too late, no, strike that, was never possible, to form a country based on civil decency, care for the impoverished, or securing a stable future based on education, initiative and cooperation rather than war and fear.
Jun-27-2011 17:19
we_R_DNA
Thermionic Trance Mission
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Right, Here
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Don't you believe that the inception of government is the reaction to individual irresponsibility in the first place?
Irresponsibility is the constant.
The inception of government was just the human's imagination/creativity manifest into reality.
Government was later utilized as a mechanism for enslaving those who did not act within the limitations of a governing body. Those enslaved were the individuals who were pushing the envelope of what it ment to be FREE of governance. Thus the government did their job of reacting to those individuals by labeling them irresponsible human scum. As the up rising was killed off one by one; individual by individual people became complacent but there are few who uprise to become the example of what it means to truly be FREE of governance.
Jun-27-2011 17:19
enydo
~
Registered: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I don't have the means right now to do so, and if I did I am not... BLAHBLAHBLABHALBHALBHA
Go work in a soup kitchen. Volunteer.
Pretty sure those things only take you and... you.
Jun-27-2011 17:20
Silky Johnson
International Playa Hater
Registered: Nov 2003
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I don't have the means right now to do so, and if I did I am not sure of what I would do, at least in regards to poverty. Honestly, poverty is a very complex issue that can not be solved by throwing money at it, it is a product of societal ills that allow vast poverty to occur. I do not have the answers to fix those either, let alone the means.
I can spot the issues though, as many can. Unfortunately I am unable to speak of anything I do contribute, so yes I am being hypocritical to some degree, but it is good to have a persistent and annoying voice shouting at people.
Honestly though, if I did have the money I'd find the best way to invest it in infrastructure, even though that is a job best left to the state. I'd probably also spend my money on initiatives to reform tax law, so we create a country where corporations and wealthy people that exist here contribute back more than their fair share of money.
Individuals alone though sadly have little power, you need coalitions and popular ideas with the backing of masses. Unfortunately in this country it is probably too late, no, strike that, was never possible, to form a country based on civil decency, care for the impoverished, or securing a stable future based on education, initiative and cooperation rather than war and fear.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Jun-27-2011 17:21
Joss Weatherby
Banned
Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
quote:
Originally posted by enydo
Go work in a soup kitchen. Volunteer.
Pretty sure those things only take you and... you.
In my opinion that is throwing money at the issue.
Those are "feel good" ways of helping, but in the end do nothing really to solve the issue of why we have so many impoverished people in this country.
I did volunteer in HS at a food bank. I found it to be pretty fucking retarded in the end and didn't see how it was actually helping these people.
Jun-27-2011 17:23
shaw
RIP
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Intergalactic Mimosa Station
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Well first off, I believe that most people that have so much money that they can do stupid luxurious shit are probably living in a country that isn't taxing them enough.
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Honestly, poverty is a very complex issue that can not be solved by throwing money at it, it is a product of societal ills that allow vast poverty to occur. I do not have the answers to fix those either, let alone the means.
You didn't even wait an hour between making those statements.
PNW FOR LYFE
Jun-27-2011 17:23
enydo
~
Registered: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
In my opinion that is throwing money at the issue.
Those are "feel good" ways of helping, but in the end do nothing really to solve the issue of why we have so many impoverished people in this country.
I did volunteer in HS at a food bank. I found it to be pretty fucking retarded in the end and didn't see how it was actually helping these people.