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Richard Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
I decided to pull this out after many months and wanted to give it another go and at the very least finish the track.
Although there is a lot of tightening I need to do on it,it is almost there.
This is a remix for Adventure club's song Gold. Oddly enough as much as the original is uplifting, this piece is and has a very melancholy and somber vibe.
Always debated if it was worth the effort.
(the ending has some weird cuts, I do recognize them...just wanted to get a feeling for the end)




Interestingly dark and atmospheric.
Needs more of a journey to somewhere after a while, maybe some loudish dark string orchestra or something with some crashing timpani drums, wailing guitars and so on maybe, even just for a short period to really satisfy the tension. Maybe not

One thing I am certain on though is the drums need to sit better, they need to be a bit quitter as I cannot hear the background too well at times, and also a bit dirtier / some roomy ambience etc so they sit better in the atmosphere you have sculpted.
I find the snare a bit wooley here, could you find a cleaner more acoustic one maybe?

Deffo worth a final push to finish it mate.


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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Darek and Evo can you give me a bit more specific detail on what you mean by 'jumpy' and 'uneven' and 'out of balance'? By out of balance do you mean some bits are too loud - maybe the drums I was thinking?

The sustained bass is deliberately jumpy and moving around I was after this feel.

Ignore those loud vocal stabs and I have not properly done transitions yet.

I have yet to do a final mixdown but it's better I have your input now to guide me.

Cheers

I am trying to listen to your track Darek but here at work sc wont play just now, so will take a listen later.


yeah the bass seems to sweep up along with some other elements


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gordan100
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Location: Zagreb, Croatia

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
It has that restful summer deep quality to it. I would again suggest you alter the drums, they are a bit static / loopy and dominating so don't really fit the music.

So to be clear what I am suggesting, maybe start with nice simple kick and short clean open hat, and gradually build the drums as you go because now it sounds like you just apply a standard loop and the open hat on it is very dominant.

One other suggestion, put some simple female reverb drenched vocal stab here n there just to round things off and give it personality.


Thanks! Yeah, i kinda suck at the drums department so i usualy use loops. Maybe it's time to learn something about building drums...

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Richard Butler
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Just would like to know what do you guys think?

I have no specific questions but want to hear your comments

Cheers,

Darek



No groove for me on this one mate, it doesn't sound as modern as your other stuff.


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TranceLover007
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quote:
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No groove for me on this one mate, it doesn't sound as modern as your other stuff.

I know is coming lol

Cheers Richard.


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SystematicX1
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Interestingly dark and atmospheric.
Needs more of a journey to somewhere after a while, maybe some loudish dark string orchestra or something with some crashing timpani drums, wailing guitars and so on maybe, even just for a short period to really satisfy the tension. Maybe not

One thing I am certain on though is the drums need to sit better, they need to be a bit quitter as I cannot hear the background too well at times, and also a bit dirtier / some roomy ambience etc so they sit better in the atmosphere you have sculpted.
I find the snare a bit wooley here, could you find a cleaner more acoustic one maybe?

Deffo worth a final push to finish it mate.


Thanks for the feedback all...Was curious to what another ear would find.


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quote:
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No groove for me on this one mate, it doesn't sound as modern as your other stuff.


i actually think that has a nice little groove!!


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quote:
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i actually think that has a nice little groove!!


I think what he was saying that he doesn't like me anymore - I assuming that this is not really his style and I do understand that -> I can't make everyone happy

Thank Paul,

Darek


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gordan100
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Here is another version. The sound is clearer a bit, i think. Also added new guitar layer which is pretty cool imo . Drums are still dull.

Edit.. day after... that guitar is not fiting and is used too much... Weird how your brain is tricked that everything is fine after you listen same thing for hours...

Edit 2.. tweaked that guitar a bit, still not sure...

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Richard Butler
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Originally posted by gordan100
Here is another version. The sound is clearer a bit, i think. Also added new guitar layer which is pretty cool imo . Drums are still dull.

Edit.. day after... that guitar is not fiting and is used too much... Weird how your brain is tricked that everything is fine after you listen same thing for hours...

Edit 2.. tweaked that guitar a bit, still not sure...




Yes sounding clearer but yaa you need to get the hats n stuff in keeping with the track, I like the kick tho


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I've tried to make the mix better, and made a lot of changes.

2 things that bother me, 1) the vocals 2) the rises aren't epic enough


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quote:
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I've tried to make the mix better, and made a lot of changes.

2 things that bother me, 1) the vocals 2) the rises aren't epic enough



Is this only a sketch of vocals?

I would use that vocal part you have much more... it's very soothing, has good melody and gives a power to the song. Starting at 0:49, repeat that vocal part again at 1:00 and on with variations until 1:30... And later use it more. If you want It's your song

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