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Capitalizt
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Saw "Paul" at the theater. Good lighthearted sci-fi comedy like Men in Black. The Shawn of the Dead guys were good and whoever did the alien voice was great...lots of lulz.
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Mar-30-2011 15:28
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GoSpeedGo!
no more Mr. Nice Guy
Registered: May 2006
Location: Eisenstein's laboratory
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quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
I'll mull that over. Thanks for giving it some explanation. I was looking for a reason for the title. |
Those Baby Doll "dances" (action scenes) are literally distractions, both in a narrative sense and for the viewers.
There really is a massive misunderstanding of the movie going on, and I think it's partly Snyder's fault, too, some of the messages the movie is trying to send are conflicting. But the concept itself is imo unique and it's hilarious to watch reactions of all those people (especially nerdy teenagers) who didn't get what they were promised.
It's a bit sad that Snyder apparently had to compromise a lot to actually sell this movie, so that there isn't anything that really drives the satirical point home, and many are going to miss it.
From interview with Snyder:
quote: | The film has gotten that interesting type of polarizing reaction.
It has. For me, I honestly think with Sucker Punch – it’s weird. I feel like people either see it two ways: completely in the overt version as exactly what they see, which is just this girl going crazy and then going on this adventure for no reason. That version of the movie that people see is as a super straightforward movie. Or people see it as a crazy, sort of, commentary on genre films and what is sexuality and why the girls are dressed like that. I think that’s also valid, because that’s what the movie is.
Would you say the film is a critique on geek culture’s sexism?
It is, absolutely. I find it interesting, in a lot of ways, that this movie – of all the movies I’ve made – has been universally hated by fanboys, which I find really interesting. It’s like a fanboy indictment, in some ways. They can’t have fun with the geek culture sexual hang ups.
I thought it was basically you commenting on those attendants at Comic-Con who shout, “You’re hot!” at beautiful cast members.
Yeah! 100%. They don’t know how to be around it. It’s funny because someone one asked me about why I dressed the girls like that, and I said, “Do you not get the metaphor there? The girls are in a brothel performing for men in the dark. In the fantasy sequences, the men in the dark are us. The men in the dark are basically me; dorky sci-fi kids.” |
http://antcomic.com/blog/?p=30410
There is also his description of the ending the film was originally supposed to have, but didn't end up there because people who saw it didn't know what to make of it. I thought it sounded brilliant.
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Mar-30-2011 17:28
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LeopoldStotch
Suapremae tranecadictt
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Yawbs,Giaks,and Automobiles
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quote: | Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
Those Baby Doll "dances" (action scenes) are literally distractions, both in a narrative sense and for the viewers.
There really is a massive misunderstanding of the movie going on, and I think it's partly Snyder's fault, too, some of the messages the movie is trying to send are conflicting. But the concept itself is imo unique and it's hilarious to watch reactions of all those people (especially nerdy teenagers) who didn't get what they were promised.
It's a bit sad that Snyder apparently had to compromise a lot to actually sell this movie, so that there isn't anything that really drives the satirical point home, and many are going to miss it.
From interview with Snyder:
http://antcomic.com/blog/?p=30410
There is also his description of the ending the film was originally supposed to have, but didn't end up there because people who saw it didn't know what to make of it. I thought it sounded brilliant. |
whatever zach snyder said i figured that was his focus just by looking at the trailers. i'll probably watch it when i have some free time, but i do have very low expectations on the movie with a lot more meaning than just a bunch of chics kicking ass.
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Mar-31-2011 04:13
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GoSpeedGo!
no more Mr. Nice Guy
Registered: May 2006
Location: Eisenstein's laboratory
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quote: | Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
...but i do have very low expectations on the movie with a lot more meaning than just a bunch of chics kicking ass. |
It's always a bit confusing to me when someone says something like that. Do folks seriously think that someone spends a few years and 80 million $$$ creating a movie with three distinct realities - an insane asylum, a brothel, and those full-on dream sequences - just because they think it looks cool? Like, there's no other reason for that at all?
The fact that most people watch films at face value is another thing, especially when it comes to these seemingly mindless movies. But that just confirms, how is everyone still very much susceptible to propaganda, even though they think they're media-savvy because they're exposed to so much of it. People can't figure out what they're really being told, especially if it's disguised as something else entirely.
This is also what this movie, or maybe reactions to it, shows. I admit that for these reasons it is more interesting on a meta level than in and of itself, but very interesting nonetheless.
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Mar-31-2011 13:26
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EgosXII
Aphorism
Registered: Apr 2007
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quote: | Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
It's always a bit confusing to me when someone says something like that. Do folks seriously think that someone spends a few years and 80 million $$$ creating a movie with three distinct realities - an insane asylum, a brothel, and those full-on dream sequences - just because they think it looks cool? Like, there's no other reason for that at all?
The fact that most people watch films at face value is another thing, especially when it comes to these seemingly mindless movies. But that just confirms, how is everyone still very much susceptible to propaganda, even though they think they're media-savvy because they're exposed to so much of it. People can't figure out what they're really being told, especially if it's disguised as something else entirely.
This is also what this movie, or maybe reactions to it, shows. I admit that for these reasons it is more interesting on a meta level than in and of itself, but very interesting nonetheless. |
you MIGHT be right in this case, but as hal said, you're extremely naive if you really think every action movie has a heart of gold which most people just 'don't get'.... transformers 2: was that meant to be an ironic comentary on how shit film is? No, it was a fucking useless, shit film which the studio KNEW it would make money off, because people like to see senseless trash.
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Mar-31-2011 20:21
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GoSpeedGo!
no more Mr. Nice Guy
Registered: May 2006
Location: Eisenstein's laboratory
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quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
you MIGHT be right in this case, but as hal said, you're extremely naive if you really think every action movie has a heart of gold which most people just 'don't get'.... transformers 2: was that meant to be an ironic comentary on how shit film is? No, it was a fucking useless, shit film which the studio KNEW it would make money off, because people like to see senseless trash. |
That's not what I was talking about.
I'm talking about approaching movies with an open mind. So many people think that Snyder, for example, is a dumb bro who has no clue and is like "lol slow-mo and hot chicks r cool", and this clouds their judgement every time they see a new film from him. Or worse, they know for sure the movie is bad just from watching the trailers.
That's anti-intellectualism.
I haven't seen Transformers 2, only have heard of some of its problems (racism, apparently?), but I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as you're trying to describe.
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Mar-31-2011 21:09
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