quote: | Originally posted by identity7
@System-J:
He asked which trance artists wasn't happy with how things were going for trance at the time, this was just an example. |
No he didn't. Let me quote back to you what he actually said, because you seemed to have forgotten:
"If you had a time machine you could go and check that. I can't remember anyone telling that wasn't trance back then really. Easy to say that many years later it's was closer to something else. But then many Bonzai track were closer to Happy Hardcore I guess..."
quote: | Or is it? You wouldn't call Madonna - heavy metal. Why? Because she doesn't sound like one? |
Of course it is. Your example does nothing to change that. You can't say Madonna isn't heavy metal without first defining in undisputed terms what "heavy metal" is and then by showing that Madonna doesn't fulfil the criteria. Saying "she isn't because she isn't" is illogical bullshit.
Simple fact is that there have been a great many records that some people have called trance and others have called progressive house, or techno or breaks, or acid house. "Trance" has never been a neat and tidy term with a neat and tidy definition. If you want to claim any record isn't trance you have to first figure out what exactly makes a record trance. You haven't done that, and until you do your debate with Trance-MB will be never-ending, tedious and fucking stupid.
quote: | You are completely missing the point. There were poor trance records of course but they were trance records and there is a solid, nicely produced new stuff but it just isn't trance. That's all to it really. |
No I'm not. You are missing my point. I'm not talking about fluff trance, however good it is. There are still trance records being released that fulfil the necessary criteria for being "real trance", whether it's new Union Jack material or modern prog-psy. There were hundreds of "real trance" records released in 1999, the apparent nadir of trance's pop debasement. Even Ishkur has admitted as much to me personally, and he's the reason 95% of you clowns are repeating these party lines in the first place.
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Mixes:
> Back To Deep [Deep Trippy House]
> Terra Nova [Modern Progressive Trance]
> Rough & Ready [Modern Trance]
>A Different Energy [Good Modern Trance]
> The Edale Mix [Panoramic Beats]
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