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atxbigballer1
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My wip! feedback plz.


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Rodri Santos
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i am going to post some feedback on the clips i've listened, this may be a good thread please don't troll.

invalyd - NCD: This is actually very good Only remarcable things i'd mention is that i don't like very much the synth stabs around 1:15 i'd quit them or make them more complex, but feel a bit unnecessary, with some extra release and an automation delay would be better.

2.- Kick may need a little bit emphasis on the low end, sounds a bit muddy with the bassline.

Good job never the less not big issues.

Alffi - Uncourttrajet.. : I like the clap you are using here, has a nice progression, hats need more volume and i'd add some shakers around 2:05 instead of another hi hat line to give the track more drive. Feels a bit repetitive but very subtle. Needs a vocal hook or something to be really effective but has potential. About the kick i am not sure what to think it sounds a bit odd at ~3:00 but throughout the track i like how it interacts with the bassline. I'd try with something more conventional though.

Storyteller - Nieuwe tellertrack I like how it sounds, one of your best works i've listened. It needs a melody on top as you point and could be something very similar to Chris Reece or Edx's old stuff which is great.

Bluff Monkey - Sum Howse. This is very very well produced and mixed no things to mention from the technical point of view. Congratulations.

Richard Butler track: I like it, really good one vocals are fine show some extra self confidence, the reverb is very well executed. I won't judge the mix down since youtube is crap but apparently vocals are maybe too loud, shakers need more presence and kick is not punchy enough. You have some eye for drum n bass i'd gently buy an EP of this track and your previous and play it.

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E Harris vs Stanley Steel - Greedy (Club MIX) Well this reminds me a lot to the trance stuff i usually make, has a very nice classic feeling. However i see some issues:

-Section that has no bassline that starts around 5:30, this needs some filtering or effects that make it attractive, right now it looks like the last beats of the song.

-I believe kick has a too long tail i like how it is layered with the bassline but kicks with shorter tails tend to sound better in clubs. If you've added reverb on the master or in the kick cut it this will help.

-To be a club mix is a bit stale, is not really danceable. Build up is not really a build up doesn't create any expectations of a sick drop.

I'd add at 3:14 the bassline with the plucks and at 3:41 highpass filter it and start growing it from the lows with a 303 acid line (check Angry Man - Tyrant (Angry Acid Mix)) this might give you some extra ideas, check the drop)

- The drop needs percussion, shakers or something to create some drive, this might server as a chilled down progressive trance track but most probably it would clear the dancefloor.

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atxbigballer1
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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
atxshotcaller1
E Harris vs Stanley Steel - Greedy (Club MIX) Well this reminds me a lot to the trance stuff i usually make, has a very nice classic feeling. However i see some issues:

-Section that has no bassline that starts around 5:30, this needs some filtering or effects that make it attractive, right now it looks like the last beats of the song.

-I believe kick has a too long tail i like how it is layered with the bassline but kicks with shorter tails tend to sound better in clubs. If you've added reverb on the master or in the kick cut it this will help.

-To be a club mix is a bit stale, is not really danceable. Build up is not really a build up doesn't create any expectations of a sick drop.

I'd add at 3:14 the bassline with the plucks and at 3:41 highpass filter it and start growing it from the lows with a 303 acid line (check Angry Man - Tyrant (Angry Acid Mix)) this might give you some extra ideas, check the drop)

- The drop needs percussion, shakers or something to create some drive, this might server as a chilled down progressive trance track but most probably it would clear the dancefloor.


Thanks Rodri Santos for the feedback!
It's just a track I need to get done when I get a faster PC.
BTW that Angry Man - Tyrant (Angry Acid Mix) Track is kick ass!


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Storyteller
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Next time do not forget to give feedback yourself before posting your own track. Otherwise this topic won't work...


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djshire
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Originally posted by atxbigballer1
My wip! feedback plz.

This track very much reminds me of late 90s trance.

The synths, especially the lead, need to be "bigger", either with reverb or some compression to bring them out.

The breakdown needs some kind of percussion.

I feel the kick needs to be a bit more muted, perhaps have a different place in the mix, as right now it seems to be bit too "upfront".

I have no idea how to embed things on this board, I have tried before and it never works, so I'm just going to leave this here
https://soundcloud.com/djshire/predator-demo
This is just a small part of a bigger track, and I've already made some modifications to the what you're hearing, but any feedback would be nice


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atxbigballer1
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Rodri Santos
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Uff i don't know if this comes from a new trend that mixes chiptunes and techno but i can't say very good things about this.

-Kick is way too distorted
-The first sound that comes in is ear pearcing.

I assume this is a very early idea of what you want to develope later but this is not the way to go lower one octave and get a kick + bass working first.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos
Uff i don't know if this comes from a new trend that mixes chiptunes and techno but i can't say very good things about this.

-Kick is way too distorted
-The first sound that comes in is ear pearcing.

I assume this is a very early idea of what you want to develope later but this is not the way to go lower one octave and get a kick + bass working first.


yeah i gotta say i agree with rodri here. i mean the groove that kinda gets going towards the end is cool, but at least an octave lower, and i'd definitely think about bringing in some organic percussion into the mix. and yeah, the kick is pretty horrible, sounds pretty SID'y. And there's a reason why you never hear them outside of chiptunes, they just don't have that solid sound you need in a proper track. And that especially goes for the kick. You could maybe beef it up with some eq, but what's the point when you could get a different one that just works out of the box? My 2 cents..

And as I'm 5:2 on the give/take scale, and as I'm really keen on some feedback, I'm gonna repost this as it seems to have been overlooked the first time around.


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djshire
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Rod and Itsame - Yea, that was a bad choice of a kick. It sounded ok at first, but over time, I realized it wasn't good for the track.

I've made some modifications to the track, with one of them being that in this bounce, I took out the buss compression (on all the percussive elements and the bass) and the master channel treatments (which I should've done at the end instead of doing them before finishing mixing).

I didn't change much else though, but I'll consider the other things you talked about.


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Mise
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itsamemario: Nice dark vibe, the kick and sub are working very well together, all the sounds are gelling fine, maybe the clap a bit too upfront. The track is simple but effective it flows very well and the use of effects for the transitions are ok, something that is hard to achieve in a live recording.

djshire: much better this time the kick is less boxy.

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Fuxzz
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Good work on the bassline, I like the energy. It could do without that dubstep vowel though, which feels a little forced in there. I think you can come up with something more original, just my preference I guess.

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Richard Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by Mise
itsamemario: Nice dark vibe, the kick and sub are working very well together, all the sounds are gelling fine, maybe the clap a bit too upfront. The track is simple but effective it flows very well and the use of effects for the transitions are ok, something that is hard to achieve in a live recording.

djshire: much better this time the kick is less boxy.




Hello mise, always look forward to checking you shit, but no, this one mate I'm not feeling in any way at all, sorry bud.

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