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Yohan
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Originally posted by jon jon
wow

this situation is beyond fucked up

any likelihood at all the international community would get involved?
international community's attention span can only deal with one ME country at a time (Syria first). kinda sad actually

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quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
international community's attention span can only deal with one ME country at a time (Syria first). kinda sad actually


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Well Anderson Cooper can't be everywhere


Now that hurricane season is over he has lots of time to fly back and forward... it's only like an hour in the air.


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NATO will never get involved in this situation.Why? The current military regime in that country is funded be the American government big time.
NATO wants to have the military regime there to prevent the country from becoming another Islamic regime. There will not be any interventions there believe me.


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Yohan
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NATO will never get involved in this situation.Why? The current military regime in that country is funded be the American government big time.
NATO wants to have the military regime there to prevent the country from becoming another Islamic regime. There will not be any interventions there believe me.
well, there is this issue of not going to risk getting lots of NATO military killed, and clogging up Suez Canal would hurt international trade a lot

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quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
NATO will never get involved in this situation.Why? The current military regime in that country is funded be the American government big time.
NATO wants to have the military regime there to prevent the country from becoming another Islamic regime. There will not be any interventions there believe me.


Egypt May Seek $3 Billion Loan From IMF as Debt Costs Soar

"Net international reserves tumbled $14 billion in the first 10 months of this year to $22.1 billion in October, according to central bank data. Economic growth in the fiscal year that ended in June slowed to 1.8 percent, compared with 5.1 percent in the previous 12 months, after revenue from tourism and foreign direct investment plunged. Egypt’s benchmark stock index tumbled 42 percent."

Not to worry... the IMF will save the day!

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/w...running-economy

"They [the military] have vast economic holdings. They own land. They're in construction. They're in consumer goods, automobiles, things that are far removed from any possible relation to military industry. And they employ many people. There are estimates that this could be as much as 10 percent of the official Egyptian economy. These aren't things that are discussed widely in Egypt. This is something of a taboo topic."

No better way to cripple a country's economy than with political uncertainty + a military ruling council with vested interests. Messy.


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Some amazing photos of the protests (link)






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Nrg2Nfinit
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looks like democracy worked somewhat.

It was a choice between two evils IMO, but it's what the majority of people wanted.


Still the military has a tight grip on any major decisions to be made and it seems as though the new leader is not much more than a figure head.

Hopefully the trend continues and we see the next elecions come up with more and more secular parties with the military relinquishing their autoratitive power to the parties and president elect.


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Morsi wins Egypt's presidential election

Muslim Brotherhood candidate declared the official winner with 13.2 million votes.



The Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Morsi has officially won Egypt's presidential election and will be the country's next president, the electoral commission has announced.

Morsi picked up 13.2 million votes out of just over 26 million, giving him about 51 per cent of the vote. His competitor, Ahmed Shafiq, the final prime minister under Hosni Mubarak, received 12.3 million. More than 800,000 ballots were invalidated.

Farouq Sultan, the head of the election commission, delivered a long speech before announcing the results in which he defended the body's "independence and integrity" amidst what he called meddling by unnamed political factions.
The final results

Turnout: 26,420,763 (51 per cent)

Invalidated votes: 843,252

Morsi: 13,230,131 votes (51.7 per cent of valid votes)

Shafiq: 12,347,380 votes

Read more on our live blog »

The two candidates filed 456 complaints about the electoral process, Sultan said, most of them allegations of either forgery or Christian voters being blocked from polling stations in Upper Egypt. The vast majority of those complaints were dismissed.

Tahrir Square erupted into celebration after Morsi's victory was announced. Tens of thousands of his supporters waved Egyptian flags and chanted "God is great" and "down with military rule."

Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, Egypt's military ruler, congratulated Morsi on his victory, state television reported. Reactions also trickled in from around the region: The governments of Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, and the Palestinian Authority congratulated the winner.

There was no immediate reaction from Shafiq's campaign.

Gehad el-Haddad, Morsi's campaign spokesman, said in an interview shortly after the results were announced that Morsi would work to be a "president for all Egyptians."

The president-elect is expected to take his oath of office later this month in front of the country's supreme court.

The Muslim Brotherhood said in a statement that Morsi had resigned his positions in both the Brotherhood and its Freedom and Justice Party, fulfilling a campaign pledge.

Political uncertainty ahead

Morsi's victory caps off more than a week of behind-the-scenes negotiations between the Brotherhood and the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF). He claimed victory just hours after last week's runoff election, based on unofficial numbers tallied by the Brotherhood, but the commission delayed its official announcement until Sunday.

In the intervening days, Khairat al-Shater, the Brotherhood's political boss, met generals from SCAF at least once. Sources say they were negotiating exactly what powers the president will have.
Morsi's spokesman, Gehad el-Haddad, reacts to the announcement on Al Jazeera

Despite Morsi's victory, many of those questions about his power remain unanswered.

"This is not the end of the game, it's a start of a huge responsibility," el-Haddad told Al Jazeera. "It comes with more challenges, turning from being the largest opposition group in Egypt to leading the country with its national front."

Shortly before the polls closed last week, the generals issued a decree sharply limiting the powers of the new president. It permitted him to declare war, for example, only with the approval of the military council.

SCAF will also keep control of legislative power, and the budget, until a new parliament is elected. Egyptians went to the polls in November to elect a legislature, which was dominated by the Freedom and Justice Party, but it was dissolved earlier this month after a high court ruling found parts of the electoral law unconstitutional.

Saad el-Katatni, the speaker of the now-dissolved parliament, also met with officials from SCAF, and told them that the Brotherhood would not accept the court ruling or the election-night decree. But it's unclear whether the Brotherhood ultimately accepted those decisions in exchange for the presidency.

Either way, the military council - which has promised to hand over power to a civilian government on June 30, in a "grand ceremony" - will remain a powerful force in Egyptian politics, despite the election of a civilian president.

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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middl...2445190400.html

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jon jon
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such a crazy story... the military never conceded any real power by putting on a masterclass in political manoeuvring...


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looks like democracy worked somewhat.


faux democracy


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