Originally posted by evo8
$1500 for a controller? thats a bit cheeky, wouldnt even call it a VA, didnt actually realise it only had 8 voices that doesnt make sense
why wouldn't it be considered a VA? you could argue it is the ultimate VA, accounting for the ACB tech, which goes far more in-depth with modelling analogue than other VA's do.
JP-8000 only had 8 voices too, a highly coveted VA. think the JP was the same price also at the time.
bagged mine for £1165... got £75 knicker off just for asking.
Oct-27-2016 16:11
evo8
Virtual Wannabe
Registered: Aug 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by rubez
why wouldn't it be considered a VA? you could argue it is the ultimate VA, accounting for the ACB tech, which goes far more in-depth with modelling analogue than other VA's do.
JP-8000 only had 8 voices too, a highly coveted VA. think the JP was the same price also at the time.
bagged mine for £1165... got £75 knicker off just for asking.
beefy short demo... sounds like that sideband filter snarling. good bass. kick by system-8 too, apparently.
Last edited by rubez on Oct-27-2016 at 17:47
Oct-27-2016 17:35
tehlord
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Windsor
quote:
Originally posted by rubez
JP-8000 only had 8 voices too, a highly coveted VA. think the JP was the same price also at the time.
Yes, 20 years ago when DSP was more expensive. Things have moved on a lot.
Also, the JP did something new with the supersaw and literally defined 10 years of dance music.
How do even make such a shit comparison?
The System 8 defines nothing, apart from cynical marketing to idiots that think more knobs = more better. It's an overpriced and underspecced piece of crap.
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Oct-27-2016 23:17
rubez
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Registered: Mar 2007
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such bitterness
might have to cancel my order if this synth doesn't look like it will change the face of dance music forever!
fantastic sounding jupiter and juno emulations, plus a meaty native engine all in one, with the ability to load yet more emulations, immediate controls, effects, arp, seq etc? yeah, i'll take that.
your are right, roland know there's a market for that and wisely came up with this synth... or should i spend £10k on the authentic real deal 30 year old analogue original?
stick to your ground breaking soft synths. i'll have some fun
Last edited by rubez on Oct-27-2016 at 23:58
Oct-27-2016 23:50
cryophonik
Boom shanka
Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA
Many people responding in this thread grew up on hardware and still use it happily alongside our software. These new Roland toys aren't designed for us. They're designed for you, so go ahead and enjoy it. But, don't expect us to tell you how wonderful these shit products are when you ask our opinion.
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Oct-28-2016 01:19
Mr.Mystery
Static Guru
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa
But that's the tried and tested rubez way - first ask for opinions, then shit on everyone who doesn't agree. Never ever budge from your position for any reason.
even actual toys can't be used to fantastic effect in music by people who know how to use them (not saying that's me)
it's a hardware VA. no-one is claiming otherwise.
let me guess if it was made in a full metal case, had analogue voices, it would be a real synth? pretty sure in a blind test, you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between this and the synths it is based on. idiot.
Oct-28-2016 08:53
tehlord
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Windsor
quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
But that's the tried and tested rubez way - first ask for opinions, then shit on everyone who doesn't agree. Never ever budge from your position for any reason.
And then sell 'the holy grail' 3 weeks later because it turned out those people who'd been using synths for 30 years were right all along.