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Originally posted by PaULiN0 Try to skip this!

In most progressive trance/house I think it is unusual for the bass to play the same note through the entire song. The lead that comes in about 2:42 doesn't really fit into the song to me because the bass and background elements do not change notes with it. Also, I think there is a conflict of styles in the song, one more atmospheric progressive house and the other a more trancey vibe (like the lead, kick and bass). One other thing, as I click through the song it has a uniform feel to it, without much contrast. I would have a section or two which is quieter and more mellow in order to provide contrast for the rest of the song. The mixing and sound design is pretty good to me, but a lot of the elements don't fit in the same song.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Listening while working in the office . @evolve140: Nice deephousey sound. Mix seems tight on headphones. You have a lot of variations going on but I'd personally like to hear a bit mnore variation with the bass by (perhaps) leaving it out here and there. @Paulino: It feels really uncomfortable from the 30second mark and as soon as the bassline comes in at the one minute mark that is confirmed even more. If you'd leave out the pads or change the key that will most likely be solved instantly. This problem keeps rearing its head throughout the entire track unfortunately. Furthermore I miss tension build ups to make the music exciting. After every break the kick just drops in out of the blue. I've been making some music with a good friend yesterday:

I really like this so far. Really professional production work (which isn't surprising as I know you've worked with respected labels and had DJ support) Nothing else really to say about it other than I hope to hear the finished version in the near future.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Listening while working in the office . @evolve140: Nice deephousey sound. Mix seems tight on headphones. You have a lot of variations going on but I'd personally like to hear a bit mnore variation with the bass by (perhaps) leaving it out here and there. @Paulino: It feels really uncomfortable from the 30second mark and as soon as the bassline comes in at the one minute mark that is confirmed even more. If you'd leave out the pads or change the key that will most likely be solved instantly. This problem keeps rearing its head throughout the entire track unfortunately. Furthermore I miss tension build ups to make the music exciting. After every break the kick just drops in out of the blue. I've been making some music with a good friend yesterday:

yeah liking this man, nice feel

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Pretty fun and bouncey techno. would sound good in a big room

Thanks guys you helped a lot...really. Will try to change things around and a more warmer and comfortable feel to it.

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This has a really solid rhythm to it. Excellent mixing as well. I honestly don't have anything to add to it.



I'm trying to make some progressive/bigroom trance ala stuff released on Lunary Records, Captivating Sounds, etc. I mainly have two questions about my WIP. What can I do to clean up the mix and is there any element missing or out of place that would not make this prog trance?

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I'm trying to make some progressive/bigroom trance ala stuff released on Lunary Records, Captivating Sounds, etc. I mainly have two questions about my WIP. What can I do to clean up the mix and is there any element missing or out of place that would not make this prog trance? Thanks.

Mid/Low end sounds a bit muddy around 4:11, probably due to the excessive verb. Saying this because it sounded relatively clean up until this point.

Might try nipping the low-end (light hi-pass) on the reverb or tone it back slightly.

Also nice that you refrained from totally brickwalling the track like most people do. Kinda irritating how common it is now.

And as far as whether this is progressive or not *shrug*, can call it whatever you want really. Trance sub-genre's kinda blur together. I'd call it more "Trance" trance. When I think "Progressive", I think Kaskade, Armin, Above and Beyond etc...but again the sub-genre thing can be up for interpretation.

my 2cents. Gl with the track.

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Originally posted by StarsInAutumn This has a really solid rhythm to it. Excellent mixing as well. I honestly don't have anything to add to it. I'm trying to make some progressive/bigroom trance ala stuff released on Lunary Records, Captivating Sounds, etc. I mainly have two questions about my WIP. What can I do to clean up the mix and is there any element missing or out of place that would not make this prog trance? Thanks.

i really dont like that lead and it is taking up so much space in the track - all the drums are just swamped out

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Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer Here is the only worthy WIP in the past 6 months, somehow the inspiration is just gone. My main question is if the cello is out of sync? It seems out of sync to me, but i just can't find a way to fit it in properly. Maybe i should throw it out quote: Originally posted by Trancelover03591 I think the cello sounds out of sync because a cello sound often has a slow attack better for playing long notes. I am guessing the synth/sample you are using for the cello has a slow attack and doesn't adapt to shorter notes like what play in your song. If a person (rather than a synth/sample) was playing it live they would adapt their method of playing to create a faster attack on the notes (as in a piece like Bach's Cello suite no. 1 prelude). Also I think the cello should be turned up a bit (if you still use it). I think I get the vibe you are going for with the track. Maybe too many elements playing in the same frequencies is making it a bit muddy? Maybe some panning would help.

If it's possible to synch the notes individually you might try turning off any snapping and do so that way. Stringed instruments are kinda funny like that.

I think balance is more of an issue than muddyness. Track seems clear enough. Just weird mixing. Seems like it wants to be an ambient/laid back track but the beat is way up front on top of everything else, overbearingly so. Chorusy bits are quasi underneath and then the cello is simply lost.

Would try : Slightly more stereo to the "string section" and bring volume up slightly. Figure out whether or not you want the cello to be the main centerpiece of the track. If so, bring it up in volume and add some variations throughout the theme. Give a little bit of stereo to the plucked harmony and duck it slightly. Either drop the drums volume or bring everything else up to match.

Intrigued by the concept of adding a cello into electronic music...(I'm a cellist) Might have to buy a pick-up for my bubenreuth and try this someday...

And why does everyone always bring up the Bach Prelude from suite 1? The prelude from suite 3 is clearly superior... :P

Gl with this track, it's interesting. Could be cool.

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Originally posted by Storyteller

Reminds me a hell of a lot like xpress 2 which really isn't a bad thing at all.. I like it!

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Originally posted by StarsInAutumn This has a really solid rhythm to it. Excellent mixing as well. I honestly don't have anything to add to it. I'm trying to make some progressive/bigroom trance ala stuff released on Lunary Records, Captivating Sounds, etc. I mainly have two questions about my WIP. What can I do to clean up the mix and is there any element missing or out of place that would not make this prog trance? Thanks.

I think it is nice. I like all the elements in there. Im no master at mixing and I am quite drunk atm but in my present state of mind it definetely works. It brings something different.

@theterran Thanks for the advice. I'll clean up the mid low stuff.

The reason why I didn't just brickwall it is because it's not a master, it just has enough gain on it to where the peaks are barely touching my limiter's threshold. When I attempt my crappy master it'll have compression on it (although I don't put a lot on as I'm terrible at mastering).

@evo8 I personally like the lead, but I'm a sucker for electro. It is too loud though.
@SherlockCrash Thanks for the compliment, I'm glad you like it.