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Lews
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Sasha played an 8 hour NYE event in Brixton last month that sold out and was filled to capacity (~2000 people), so I'd say a few people still listen to them.

And looking at tracklists of both of them from the last year, I'd say their music choices are pretty in-touch.

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Trancelover03591
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
None. I can't find the interview in question either, it's been buried under the Google landslide.


I read a similar interview recently too, maybe it is this one (had to look around a bit to find it myself)?

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...7017ff606ecead1


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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
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Yes! Nice work.

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Unfortunately Sasha told Hit last year it was over for good: “I don’t really have anything nice to say about John any more so I’d probably rather not say anything”.

This is a surprise to Digweed. “I didn’t know we had fallen out, is that we he said?” he asks. “Nah, I’ve never said we’ll never play together again. For us or for me personally it was like we need a break, we’ve been playing together over 17 years so there’s definitely no bad feeling my end.”


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Paradox Lost
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Registered: Aug 2007
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I don't think it's unreasonable to speculate that this has more to do with Sasha's falling out with Digweed rather than some kind of mutual rift. Sasha's been a notoriously high maintenance diva since at least Delta Heavy, whereas Digweed by many accounts is as every bit as laid back as his mid 2000's beach-bum haircut would suggest, and you can even sense that in the interview- Sasha takes a passive aggressive jab at Digweed, Digweed basically replies with 'huh?', and moves right along with his life.


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planetaryplayer
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personally i don't normally listen to the songs john plays but when he DJs it sounds pretty good to me. i think the worst I've seen him was 7.5/10.

from my encounters seeing sasha he's been good about half the time, and maybe the best I've seen him live id give an 8-9/10.

some of that elitist techno scene stuff is rubbing down to other sub-genres, where the label or artist has to be uncommon and vinyl only or complete trash. IMO john deserves his popularity and ill continue to see him DJ as he's yet to disappoint (although I've focussed mostly on techno for the past few years).

side note: ill never understand ricardo villalobos... the onetime i went to see him he was too fucked up to beat match and mix, and too fucked up to realize it. fool was dancing by himself behind the decks when half the people stopped dancing and started shouting at him LOL. i hear sasha gets pretty fucked up on occasion still too

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ucforange
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Originally posted by enydo
Maybe they're both just so deaf at this point they can't tell how piss-boring the music they generally play is.


You're crazy

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ucforange
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Originally posted by dj christian
This is what i was going to write. Really who listens on them anyway in this day and age? Last good sets they had were around 2006-2008. Their heydays were in the nineties. I can't thank them enough for how much they have brought me in the world of electronic music. I still from time to time listen to their older compilations, mixes and what not.

I have nothing against them personally or anything like that but their music choices has been out of touch for at least a decade.


I understand that people have their likes and dislikes, but I just can't wrap my head around statements like this... I can't speak for places elsewhere in the world outside of the Miami/Orlando/Tampa scene, but Digweed absolutely packs the house for his WMC shows. His show at Treehouse last March was sold out within a week or so. I could count the amount of non-"EDM" shows using my ten fingers that actually sold out -- and his show was probably the first. Also: his WMC boat cruise sells out and is RSVP only -- at $200 a ticket. So yeah, there might be a tiny audience for him and the music that he spins.

In all honesty, his style isn't too unlike the Innervisions stuff. But he's a more well-rounded DJ and is more prone to play "outside the box" than even guys like Dixon. Deeper repertoire. In my opinion, statements like yours are usually made by people whom have biased preconceptions of a DJ and their music. Usually easier to write off than it is actually objectively listen to the music...

Of course if you flat out don't like the sound, fine, but c'mon don't dismiss it because it's not your cup of tea.

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SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Sasha's been a notoriously high maintenance diva since at least Delta Heavy


If anything, most of his high-maintenance behaviour came well before Delta Heavy. By that point he was taking his career pretty seriously, and in the Delta Heavy DVD he talks about he had to sign a hefty no-appearance clause in his contract due to his past reputation. In the '90s, going right back to the start of his career, he was absolutely infamous for missing gigs. The very first time he was supposed to play with Digweed was at a night Diggers was promoting - and he never showed up. In 1993 a fan wrote depairingly into Mixmag with a letter that simply said "Sasha, why do you never turn up?" When they were interviewed by Muzik Magazine in 1996 during the Northern Exposure tour, the whole article was about how Sasha almost missed the gig, even when journalists were documenting the whole thing. It goes on and on and on. He used to miss gigs claiming he was locked in the studio working on his mythical debut album, which only increased the pressure when Airdrawndagger didn't appear year after year.

Most of it was down to getting far too fucked up in clubs or in the inevitable after-parties, whereas Digweed isn't known for taking drugs. Sasha said of his fall-out with Renaissance promoter Geoff Oakes, "I last a couple of years with people then it all goes wrong". Given what John Digweed patiently tolerated for a decade or more, it's something of a miracle this has never happened earlier.

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In my opinion, statements like yours are usually made by people whom have biased preconceptions of a DJ and their music. Usually easier to write off than it is actually objectively listen to the music...


If you look through dj christian's post history you can go back literally three years without finding a single post where he has anything positive to say about any contemporary music. It probably goes much further, I just bored of looking. The guy is the absolute epitome of the jaded TranceAddict wanker who turns up entirely to complain about how shit music is.


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Paradox Lost
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If anything, most of his high-maintenance behaviour came well before Delta Heavy. By that point he was taking his career pretty seriously, and in the Delta Heavy DVD he talks about he had to sign a hefty no-appearance clause in his contract due to his past reputation. In the '90s, going right back to the start of his career, he was absolutely infamous for missing gigs. The very first time he was supposed to play with Digweed was at a night Diggers was promoting - and he never showed up.


Was that back when Digweed basically brought him into The Hacienda? I had no doubt that this reputation preceded him well before Delta Heavy, but the DVD admission was just a convenient way to timestamp it, and is still to say nothing of his contractual violations of the tour, like playing out on nights that were outside of the agreement.


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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Was that back when Digweed basically brought him into The Hacienda?


Er... no. John Digweed had no association with Hacienda to my knowledge. He was promoting his own nights in Hastings, which is about 300 miles away from Manchester. Sasha was playing Hacienda in 1988 when he lived next door to Jon Da Silva. If anything, Sasha brought Digweed to Renaissance in 1992/3, which was the beginning of Diggers' rise to prominence.


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side note: ill never understand ricardo villalobos... the onetime i went to see him he was too fucked up to beat match and mix, and too fucked up to realize it. fool was dancing by himself behind the decks when half the people stopped dancing and started shouting at him LOL. i hear sasha gets pretty fucked up on occasion still too


That story is hilarious.

Ive heard similar stories about what you recalled. He has a nickname , "ibiza bad boy" for a reason. Ive never seen him perform but when i think about it, i wonder if it is something like Troxler tanked and full 'tard' behind the decks that infamous video .

But , supposedly when he not wacked out of his mind, he is really something special.


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ucforange
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Originally posted by Godking5
That story is hilarious.

Ive heard similar stories about what you recalled. He has a nickname , "ibiza bad boy" for a reason. Ive never seen him perform but when i think about it, i wonder if it is something like Troxler tanked and full 'tard' behind the decks that infamous video .

But , supposedly when he not wacked out of his mind, he is really something special.


Seth Troxler actually cares about the crowd he's playing in front of. Ricardo is the quintessential douchebag. His fandom consists almost entirely of douchey hipster types. Match made in heaven. Saw Ricardo play at DEMF in 2011 and he -- I swear -- purposely played boring bullshit meandering tech house his entire set. It went nowhere. It was raining and he had an early evening slot on the main stage. People were cramming in the rain (all the other stages had some sort of cover) to catch him for a rare set in the U.S. and he laid a giant turd. Fuck that guy. Heard similar stories about other gigs he's played too. In fact, saw him for about 20 minutes halfway through his set at Into the Valley in Sweden last August and it was the same sort of crap. Went to the smaller stage to catch Aril Brikha who was just killing it. Best decision of the weekend.

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