Thanks for the update guys.
I'm hoping my local Guitar Center actually has them in stock and will got to pick up.
I'd prefer traktor but won't mind being forced to use serato.
There's a really insightful post from the NI forums:
It works with every platform, but timecode isn't recognised fully (because it is not full timecode, only sinus directional wave generated, and no relative place of timecode info that is used to correct sticker drifts normally) so its showing warnings (in serato too, but it seems like they embrace MWM and working out this (but it is not ). And with denon players (s3900 hybrid mode) with same idea, it was working with traktor but there was a big sticker drift. And with fully embracing it all Pioneer, NI, and Serato could easily with future firmware update make it communicate with software via some sort of midi/hid mode by usb cable only and skip rca cables, but it would need cooperation between MWM and every of them, and we all now how it is in business world
So, im fan of device, but it is not ideal for now, but it easily could, so i have hope. If i would not have them, i would NOT BUY THEM FOR NOW. but for now.
- Accelerometers in my two devices wasnt properly calibratered when assambled, so one is + 0,4 bpm, one is +1,1 bpm on same tracks same turntable etc. But it is known issue and they working about it, and this should be easily updated via firmware. If/when this one will be updated, i see myself using it in normal club sets, for now - no.
- there is sticker drift, but not very big and it varies from device to device, so i feel like it can be a lot better when accelerometers will be updated and properly calibrated. If sticker drift would be only as small like in one of my devices, i would be cool with using it live for beatjuggling. Now i'm not. There is a lot less sticker drift on my friends device when used in Serato, but it was same way in denon s3900 hybrid mode. And with denon it wasn't corrected, so this is thing to have in mind. We, Traktor user are in worse situation than serato users in this topic
- There is small weird stuff that could be easily done much cleare for users, i don't had problem with understanding, but it could be better. Stupid user friendly
- When first connected my wifi devices was disconnected lol, maybe it is coincidence, but is possibly. But it is assuring that it is THAT strong if its not ;D
- Calibration should be on 1.0 of firmware but its another issue.
- when you take usb plug out of port, devices are still connected and they go to sleep mode and disconnect only after time configured in app, so you can easily go to power them down if you set them to not going to sleep at all or long period of time. It could be possibly done via firmware, but i feel like it needs for example two fast clicks on buttons to make them force to go to sleep/turning off and second time to wake them /turn on
- connected to z2 port it was disconnecting, connected to another usb hub it disconnected hard drive, so i do believe that it needs a lot of power, but after configuration you can plug it into wall power adapter so it is not issue.
- Calibration warning you can disable in preferences, but it is visual only.
- Because it is thinking that is cd player, after period of time sometimes both traktor and serato changes to internal mode, you can easily map some midi button to change from internal to relative so it is not big issue, IF but it is big if, NI should easily change it if they would want it, and old traktor code base would not prevent them too much. [same issue was with denon s3900 also]
But i STILL belive that is biggest revolution in djing since dvs, but kinks need to be worked out, and it needs slight push to reach full potential. And i do hope that busines side of deal will not block it. It worries me a lot, but i do have hope, there are some small indicators that it can happen.
It is really dope device and potential is a LOT bigger than it is now, but it need some changes. And it would be even better if hid/midi would be added and used on software side, it would be two cables less, probably even less latency because it would be minus analyzing time codes. way more faster changeups between djs etc.
Then I found another post that might be useful:
"you can turn those off, MR positive told me how, global - 'enable deck header warnings'"
However, there seems to be a problem with Traktor which is record slip, meaning that they won't keep time in long mixes, and it's related to the way that Traktor reads the limited timeclode.
Apparently this does NOT affect serato - it means that Phase is really only useful right now on Serato or Mixxx, and they'll need to do a firmware update and patch fix for Tra
Finally fuck Phase's delivery issues: They are out of stock everywhere and there won't be another delivery until after the first week of may.