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Mise
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy28


Another Idea but not as hard




Andy Imo: Clean mixes, very tidy sounding, maybe to much. I prefer the second one. The high pitched lead in the first one is a bit thin.

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Originally posted by evo8
i guess this is what they now call "EDM" ? the kick is clicky and so is the bassline so im not sure if that works? too much clicky :P




Thanks Evo, Yes agree on that. I love transients but I may be overdoing them.


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madmuso
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quote:
Originally posted by evo8
way too much going on for me, sounds overcompressed


cool. Too much going on melodicaly or rhythm wise? or both?
Can you suggest what you'd strip back maybe?

Probably is overcompressed a little, I dont ever master my own songs but when I do bounces of test mixes I like to experiment on the master buss with mastering, this way i can hopefully get better at mastering and make mistakes on mixes that arent going anywhere!

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quote:
Originally posted by Andy28
Another good track from you Richard, sounding good!



Nice track, very dark but I like it. Bass could be a bit stronger for my liking.



Its not bad at all, but you need to get rid of that percussive sound with the funny timing, it messes everything up.

Some harder trance here..

Its like the main idea I guess, its as about as far as I ever seem to get. Maybe I should collab with jp so he can make me an intro



Another Idea but not as hard



dig both of these, cool vibes. The high lead on teh first track to me sounds like its not sitting in the groove correctly, sounds as though its fighting against the pocket of the track. It immediatley made me feel a little awkward and took me out of the track. It sounds as though its playing its hardest notes on every downbeat or there abouts. Maybe play around with its velocities and get it to sit in the pocket and groove some more? Not trying to offend, just being honest! Really dig the chord progression on the second track, I wanna write some stuff like that some day!

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Richard Butler
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Originally posted by Andy28

Some harder trance here..

Its like the main idea I guess, its as about as far as I ever seem to get. Maybe I should collab with jp so he can make me an intro



Another Idea but not as hard





You've nailed the sound I think, good stuff on both tracks, now finish them!

One small point on track one, that hi pitched leed that joins the fun after a while is too dry compared to the rest. Add some roominess to it.


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Richard Butler
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MADMUSO

I wanted to bring this track to you here as an example of devastating uplifting trance in case it helps you on your own journey.

This is from 2010 but IMHO probably the most uplifting trance ever made, especially the way he imprints such a strong melody with fantastic variations from about 2.20 onwards. I feel as if in the prescence of genius hearing this;



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quote:
Originally posted by madmuso
cool. Too much going on melodicaly or rhythm wise? or both?
Can you suggest what you'd strip back maybe?

Probably is overcompressed a little, I dont ever master my own songs but when I do bounces of test mixes I like to experiment on the master buss with mastering, this way i can hopefully get better at mastering and make mistakes on mixes that arent going anywhere!


yeah, ye see this whole mastering thing is the problem, just FORGET about mastering until you have your mixes down. Mastering is to essentially make mixes louder and add a slight little polish here and there

If the mix is subpar then you are just mastering a subpar mix. Concentrate on mixing, which can take several years to get right - then go for mastering.


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Originally posted by evo8
yeah, ye see this whole mastering thing is the problem, just FORGET about mastering until you have your mixes down. Mastering is to essentially make mixes louder and add a slight little polish here and there

If the mix is subpar then you are just mastering a subpar mix. Concentrate on mixing, which can take several years to get right - then go for mastering.


Thank you evo8 for your great originality of thought. That was really fresh and enlightening from you. My eyes are open now.


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Thank you evo8 for your great originality of thought. That was really fresh and enlightening from you. My eyes are open now.


tryin' too hard


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Thank you guys for all your comments, notes all taken


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Originally posted by madmuso
Not trying to offend, just being honest!


Don't be daft, I want people to be honest, it's the only way to improve.
TA is the only place I really post anything I do, so all comments are welcome even if you think its a pile of shit

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madmuso
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Originally posted by Richard Butler
MADMUSO

I wanted to bring this track to you here as an example of devastating uplifting trance in case it helps you on your own journey.

This is from 2010 but IMHO probably the most uplifting trance ever made, especially the way he imprints such a strong melody with fantastic variations from about 2.20 onwards. I feel as if in the prescence of genius hearing this;




thanks mate, thats a great sounding track, one thing I need to figure out is how to get that (what I call) rubbery bass sound, it kinda reminds me of the bass in Gareth Emery exposure (which I f%$kn love).
Its juicy and has bounce to it but doesnt interfere with the kick. You got any tips on how to make that kind of sound? Do people still write this kind of stuff or is it considered dated now? To me it still sounds killer!

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deegee
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Fuck 'dated.'

Good music is good music. There's a reason DJs still cane stuff like Madagascar and 1998.

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Fuck 'dated.'

Good music is good music. There's a reason DJs still cane stuff like Madagascar and 1998.


I agree 100 percent. In this day and age where people are so quick to point out " hey, that was so yesterday" is it wise for people trying to break the scene to write such music? I often think about crap like that and it does my head in. Having said that, I just write what comes out without thinking of any of that anyway, f it feels good to me I'm gonna keep running with it.

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