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gordan100
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Registered: Apr 2011
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

Here's a prog track, help me mix it please guys

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Actually, the best part for me is from 2:05 to 2:36, that happy main melody is not my cup of tea, also to much white noise (from open synth) overall... maybe that style of music has to sound like that, i'm realy far far away from being an expert .



Btw.. I've got an interesting review from one musician, and he said that there must be some rules applied to track composition so that labels would even consider your track for publishing.. What do you think about that?

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If a DJ uses a 6-minute track in his mix, a minute til a minute and 30 in the beginning and end of the it would be lost in the mixing process. This means that the musical idea of this track has to be developed in that minute - 01:30 in its beginning. This rule applies no matter if the track is used for a mix or not. I like your track but what do I mean - in my opinion after 00:15min the bass line has to come in, the kick - 00:32min, 01:18min - again full drums as well as stringpad, which comes at the end of the track(right now). If you wish, you can change the stringpad but keep the original idea. That way the main idea of the track will become developed. About the pauses in the track - in this case it would be better to make just one, around 30 secs before the second course of the stringpad.

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Richard Butler
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Location: London

quote:
Originally posted by gordan100

Actually, the best part for me is from 2:05 to 2:36, that happy main melody is not my cup of tea, also to much white noise (from open synth) overall... maybe that style of music has to sound like that, i'm realy far far away from being an expert .



Btw.. I've got an interesting review from one musician, and he said that there must be some rules applied to track composition so that labels would even consider your track for publishing.. What do you think about that?


Thanks - that feedback from a musician, do you mean it was feedback to my actual track?

I used to put the bass in early as suggested in that feedback, and give and early blast of the main part but people would say there was too much revealed too early on. Just gotta go more with my own gut feel I think otherwise you end trying to please too many different constituencies.

Anyway thanks for your thoughts, the bit you like is the the bit I was finding the most boring, lol.


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Richard Butler
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Originally posted by Constantin

That kick ain't working to well, try sth with more energy in the low freq area xD


I am trying not too have too much low on the kick now as for me personally it spoils tracks, especially in the car when often they overwhelm the music.

Also I was taking the advice of Steve Duda who said its too easy to overdo the low end on kicks.

So I'll see how things go before changing it yet. But many thanks. Any other mix advice most welcome.


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gordan100
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Registered: Apr 2011
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Thanks - that feedback from a musician, do you mean it was feedback to my actual track?

No, it was feedback on my track

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As a general rule I used to put the bass in early as suggested in that feedback and give and early blast of the main part but people would say there was too much revealed too early on. Just gotta go more with my own gut feel I think otherwise you end trying to please too many different constituencies.

I agree with you there..

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Anyway thanks for your thoughts, the bit you like is the the bit I was finding the most boring, lol.

hahahaha, yeah, we are all different thanks to mother nature... it would be extremely boring otherwise

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Richard Butler
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Your feedback about the white noise is spot on. It comes mainly from open filter synth. I will tone it, and the lazars down.

Would you think that part you liked better should form the basis of the intro then?


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Constantin
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Registered: Jun 2011
Location: Varde, Denmark

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
I am trying not too have too much low on the kick now as for me personally it spoils tracks, especially in the car when often they overwhelm the music.

Also I was taking the advice of Steve Duda who said its too easy to overdo the low end on kicks.

So I'll see how things go before changing it yet. But many thanks. Any other mix advice most welcome.


Hmmm then can you try low it down ~650 hz a bit? Maybe my brain got screwed from to much alcohol, but that freq sounds like its distracting me from the mix, it sounds to boxy xD


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Andy28
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Change the kick Rich, it's really letting the track down imo

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Storyteller
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Location: The Netherlands

What Andy said...


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Storyteller
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Location: The Netherlands

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Originally posted by soulstar606
labels? lol like the ones on beatport that just filed for bankruptcy? lol focus your energy on becoming a better musician and songriter and stop focusing on labels....the entire edm label thing is in the tank


Beatport did not file for bankruptcy. SFX did. Beatport has sufficient funds to continue. Don't spread misinformation.

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the last thing you want is someone else getting a cut of your hard work....and that doesnt come from online label sales...


Unless the label provides more value relative to the share it takes. If a label takes 50% but increases gross revenue by 300% it is a good deal as you will be making double the money you would've on your own, as well as you've gotten access to their client/fanbase, thus inherently the label is creating even more value than just the part that is monetized short-term.

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you have direct access to your listening base.....you dont need "labels" anymore...they arent even worth anything anymore.....


Nonsense, the value of a label depends on the context. Accessing your fanbase directly is of course a given.


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MSZ
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Not sure if troll or just retarded.

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TranceElevation
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soulstar, a smart guy.


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gordan100
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Registered: Apr 2011
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I think that soulstar can have his opinion, and i respect his opinion. However, my opinion is that labels, actually a label you like personaly, not just any label, can provide you their fanbase which is your target audience, and you just can't reach that fanbase by yourself.

Oh, and i think this all goes really offtopic now. I'm sorry if i was a cause of that. Let's help Richard to make a top trance tune...

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