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gordan100
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quote:
Originally posted by Vector A
Hunting down some atmospheric samples and playing with sidechaining.




Sounds cool, keep it rollin'


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MSZ
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Yea I think a nonsidechained lush pad over that would be quite nice.

My panasonic boombox mix with 50% more stray fifths, just a loop basically.

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Woony
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quote:
Originally posted by Vector A
Hunting down some atmospheric samples and playing with sidechaining.


Nice loop, kick is lacking in lows though and feels a bit clinical overall, could use a bit of warming up and saturation.


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vector A - nice beginning really like it! and MSZ, yep yep yep, no crits.......


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Vector A
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quote:
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Nice loop, kick is lacking in lows though and feels a bit clinical overall, could use a bit of warming up and saturation.

Thanks for that, spot on.

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theterran
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So, here's the newest project. Usually try to stay away from F# -> D# -> A#...oh well. It's a bit quick into the main theme, but lately I've been starting at the build before a main theme and adding intro / outtro last...seems to be helping my workflow and arranging.



- Planned : Complete Intro, Next build and Outtro, design more intense / interesting builds, clean up and add FX for more interesting breakdown, try to tighten kick / bass a little more and fine tune low-end, better blending / spacing of background synths.

Maybe add a final melody. during the 2nd half of the breakdown into the next buildup...

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Richard Butler
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So, here's the newest project. Usually try to stay away from F# -> D# -> A#...oh well. It's a bit quick into the main theme, but lately I've been starting at the build before a main theme and adding intro / outtro last...seems to be helping my workflow and arranging.



- Planned : Complete Intro, Next build and Outtro, design more intense / interesting builds, clean up and add FX for more interesting breakdown, try to tighten kick / bass a little more and fine tune low-end, better blending / spacing of background synths.

Maybe add a final melody. during the 2nd half of the breakdown into the next buildup...



Sounds great and a cool melody
Get some nice tight analogy drums in there


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Richard Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Yea I think a nonsidechained lush pad over that would be quite nice.

My panasonic boombox mix with 50% more stray fifths, just a loop basically.



These lush things you churn out make you the pad / drone / atmos top dog


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theterran
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Sounds great and a cool melody
Get some nice tight analogy drums in there


Hey, thanks for the listen!

So, the entire kit? Kick? Hats? Add analog percussion?

Kick...probably, it's a boring kick I think.

Pretty firm on keeping the hats...Was a pain finding a metallic / wet timbre I liked...and smoothing them out was also...a pain. They're much sexier above 128 bitrate.

Any suggestions on particular drum samples to peruse?

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MSZ
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If I were to nitpick I would layer in another clap with a thicker transient but not over-so; that might help with tying in the hihats as well. I mean if you were going for hyperbeast production I suppose one would say articulation in the low end would need some work but you'll only get so far with your chosen floppy paddish bass. I guess other than a/bing the kick with some other tracks more or less the piece sounds balanced for the dated sounds you've chosen; nice mids dood: you can nitpick any track almost.

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gordan100
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Nice, MSZ and theterran.

Is this working - slow pad and bassline ?


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theterran
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quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
If I were to nitpick I would layer in another clap with a thicker transient but not over-so; that might help with tying in the hihats as well.


I understand. Will definitely give this a shot. Will probably start by loosening up the current clap a little, add a touch more verb and bring it up a smidge to see how it reacts. Probably seated it a little too deep into the mix, yeah.

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I mean if you were going for hyperbeast production I suppose one would say articulation in the low end would need some work but you'll only get so far with your chosen floppy paddish bass.


Nah, I wasn't...hyperbeast production is unrealistic given my current setup. That, and I'm really not obsessed with it as much anymore. Sure, it's fun working towards excellent production, but I don't stress over it, I just want something I can enjoy listening to, that will translate well to different systems...Probably the only people that can consciously hear the difference anyway are producers and mastering engineers...I've tested this theory on my friends...

So I just do what I can with what I've got... Pair of hs50m's, DT880 250 ohm through an Oxygen O2 and some Klipsch RF-82 II's + 10" sub for the hi-fi / sub-bass check. Current room(s) are also fairly pitiful...As Texas basically has tile floors and big windows in every house, in every room...

Floppy bass, lol, yeah that's about right. I agree though...The top end of the bass I still like...but the low-end should probably be gutted and replaced with another more precise / manageable bass layered in.

Usually save low-end cleanup for last because it's a pain transferring back and forth to the hi-fi system with the sub. I've been tempted on several occasions to pick up the Yamaha HS sub or get the 80M's, but I've been cautioned against it.

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I guess other than a/bing the kick with some other tracks more or less the piece sounds balanced for the dated sounds you've chosen; nice mids dood: you can nitpick any track almost.


I have a few ideas of what kinda kick I'd want. Best way I can describe is visually + adjectives...

If the current kick is (O), I want [O]. Thick, heavy, slightly fluffy. More of a thud, than a thump. I don't have anything in the library that matches this description very well. (My drum sample library is on the small'ish side) Usually I'll just try to get close, or build / layer a kick...But maybe now is a good time to look into expanding the drumkit library for once.

They are dated sounds...but I love them. I stray occasionally and flirt with other sounds, but I always find myself coming back...Will probably be stuck in the 90's for awhile...

Great overall critique though. I appreciate your time in listening / responding. Nitpicking makes good -> great, so it's appreciated. You also confirmed a few of my own suspicions.

Hell, the main reason I liked these forums, was the sometimes brutal, non-sugar coated reviews. I had just dropped by to say hi, but evo said post one...so I did... :S

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