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DST is great if you have kids. Kids wake up early enough as it is, as if I want the goddamn sun promoting even earlier rising in the summer time!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Of course. Why is that remotely strange? At 8pm I'm not at work. I'd rather have daylight then so I can continue to do things outdoors. Who does anything interesting at 7 am? You're either working or commuting. It's wouldn't be sunny at that time in winter here anyway. It's currently getting dark at about 6pm. After this weekend that will become 5pm. In the depths of December it's pitch black at 4pm. This is depressing during the week and even worse at the weekend. That extra hour of daylight is shunted to early morning when I'm either asleep or staggering home from a party, and the rest of my day is curtailed. Who benefits from this shift? The vanishingly small percentage of children who cycle to school unaccompanied, according to Trance-MB, in another example of TA's ludicrous bike safety zealotry. Possibly the breed of sad bastard who gets up at 5 am and does everything before work, and who's asleep at 9 pm anyway. And yes, I was getting confused about which is which. In the UK we just call it British Summer Time and Greenwich Mean Time. Calling summer hours "Daylight Saving" is an open admission that we're willfully pissing an hour away in winter. Seriously. Get it binned off. I couldn't feel more strongly about this.

Eh, if that’s your thing, cool. I personally love when it’s dark at 5pm. It is a sign that the day is over. The late sunrises are even better. I’ll commute and see the most beautiful skies. Summer really annoys me because I rarely see that. Plus hot weather sucks.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Of course. Why is that remotely strange? At 8pm I'm not at work. I'd rather have daylight then so I can continue to do things outdoors. Who does anything interesting at 7 am? You're either working or commuting. It's wouldn't be sunny at that time in winter here anyway. It's currently getting dark at about 6pm. After this weekend that will become 5pm. In the depths of December it's pitch black at 4pm. This is depressing during the week and even worse at the weekend. That extra hour of daylight is shunted to early morning when I'm either asleep or staggering home from a party, and the rest of my day is curtailed. Who benefits from this shift? The vanishingly small percentage of children who cycle to school unaccompanied, according to Trance-MB, in another example of TA's ludicrous bike safety zealotry. Possibly the breed of sad bastard who gets up at 5 am and does everything before work, and who's asleep at 9 pm anyway. And yes, I was getting confused about which is which. In the UK we just call it British Summer Time and Greenwich Mean Time. Calling summer hours "Daylight Saving" is an open admission that we're willfully pissing an hour away in winter. Seriously. Get it binned off. I couldn't feel more strongly about this.

You are aware that winter time is the normal time? The summer time was introduced to have an hour longer daylight in the evening (and by that saving energy, although not everyone agrees it actually saved energy), not the winter time. To choose for summer time and drop winter time doesn't make any sense to me.
You act like you think summer time is the normal time, but my points are only valid when choosing summer time as normal time and the negative impact in winter. More bikers in the dark in the morning will result in more accidents without any doubt.
Holland has 22.5 million bikes on 17.5 million people. 25% of all movement is done by bikes which is 15 billion km annually. Holland has 1.3 bike per inhabitant compared to 0.3 or 0.4 in the UK.
During morning rush-hour over here there are more bikes on the roads than cars. There's your small percentage! The safety over course isn't only for the kids, but also for all grown-ups going to work by bike.

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Fucking Christ.

I wen to the Dodgers v Red Sox baseball game last night.

First time at a ball game and it not only happens to be the longest in history at 7+ hours and 18 innings, but this fucking happens....

Last edited by DJ RANN on Oct-27-2018 at 17:38

"Normal time" is whatever we set the clock to. Time zones are just a way of standardising time. The sun rises and sets at subtly different times depending on precise latitude and longitude.

And you realise I cycle to work as well, right? On Monday I'll have to cycle home in the dark. How is that any safer than my morning commute being in the dark?

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This conversation is getting dangerously close to "time is a construct".

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J "Normal time" is whatever we set the clock to. Time zones are just a way of standardising time. The sun rises and sets at subtly different times depending on precise latitude and longitude.

Normal time is the local time in a country when Daylight Saving Time is not in use, which is the time we agreed to by the time zones. And yes you could change that, but it makes more sense to get rid of DST than changing summer time to normal time, but that's just my opinion.

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And you realise I cycle to work as well, right? On Monday I'll have to cycle home in the dark. How is that any safer than my morning commute being in the dark?

I know and a bit surprised as because of that I would think you know that there are more bikes on the road in the morning compared to the evening as schools end earlier. It's just looking at big numbers, but maybe it doesn't affect you on your way. My colleagues who come to work by bike always complain about kids riding next to each other on the cycle paths holding them up in the morning.

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There are almost half a billion people in the European Union and nought point dick percent of them are Dutch children. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

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Non Daylight Savings Time is, in fact, Solar Time. It is established as Noon being when the sun is at the highest point from the horizon along its path along the daytime skyline. To want Daylight Savings Time year round is to flaunt the natural order of cosmological astrophysics.

Do you want Hell Portals in the skyline? Because permanent DST is how you get Hell Portals in the skyline, I reckon.

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