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Richard Butler
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Like the atmospheric synths here, but for me personally the clap is distracting and detracting from the dark atmosphere. A taste thang, but maybe a classic little Roland snare or a quiet clap perhaps.


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Richard Butler
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So here's the version having taken on board feedback, so sorry to hog this damned thread.

Back to my more powerful drums, lots of mixing and transition work done.

Still not sure about the bass, not sure if it has enough character or not.

I also have a vocalist doing her own take on things, Ill see how that goes.



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Richard, I've only listened to this track on headphones. I'm mesmerized. Maybe a bit more bass (just notch the volume up a bit on that reese thing) could work, but overall you put emphasis on all the right elements in the right places. I love how the chords sit on top of the mix demanding focus and setting a brilliant mood without taking over the whole thing.

Not trying to have a go here - but I'm just baffled how the quality of your productions seems to differ so much at times. This one is lovely. Very well done. I've been a fan for a while, but if you keep up quality like this... I'm gonna put this on repeat for a while.


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Richard, that track is dope. Your drums sound excellent. I agree with Storyteller about the bass being quiet though. Don't do the thing where you go and drastically change it into something totally different

Working on a new trap tune here, It's just an 8 bar idea right now but I like where it's going.


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Working on a new trap tune here, It's just an 8 bar idea right now but I like where it's going.



Diggin that Seandroid, go with it


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Richard, that track is dope. Your drums sound excellent. I agree with Storyteller about the bass being quiet though. Don't do the thing where you go and drastically change it into something totally different


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Richard Butler
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Originally posted by Seandroid
Richard, that track is dope. Your drums sound excellent. I agree with Storyteller about the bass being quiet though. Don't do the thing where you go and drastically change it into something totally different

Working on a new trap tune here, It's just an 8 bar idea right now but I like where it's going.



Droid that's very good but if you make into a full trap track be sure to have it ever evolving. The best trap tracks for me never stay still, and even a prominent lead part is always evolving, changing sound etc. Maybe for example after 4 bars change your lead there to a Human voice sample type lead. I've noticed young kids rapidly going through trap tracks one after another until they find one which is ever evolving as this holds their interest.

I thought of you recently when I was listening to UK Grime, which is said to be the sound of 2016. Might try some myself.


Thanks for your feedback - I appreciate you reminding me not to totally change the track as that is a bad habit I have.
I will try and make bass a bit louder but very mindfull of other comments saying it was too loud, hmmmm


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Originally posted by Storyteller
Richard, I've only listened to this track on headphones. I'm mesmerized. Maybe a bit more bass (just notch the volume up a bit on that reese thing) could work, but overall you put emphasis on all the right elements in the right places. I love how the chords sit on top of the mix demanding focus and setting a brilliant mood without taking over the whole thing.

Not trying to have a go here - but I'm just baffled how the quality of your productions seems to differ so much at times. This one is lovely. Very well done. I've been a fan for a while, but if you keep up quality like this... I'm gonna put this on repeat for a while.



Cheers Mat, yeah my consistency is not good, but I'm making a super hard effort to address this - tbh I'm absolutely reliant on feedback here.

I will try and get the bass up a little in volume (wont touch eq unless people say otherwise), and make a few slight additions, such as a reverse piano hit running up to each piano hit in the intro just to smooth it some.

Also looking to get the vocals done properly into a song as it were, but if not, will leave as is.

Since rebuilding my PC I lost all my IK Multimedia dynamics and so only use Cubase dynamics and a couple of freebee's. I do wonder if my sound would improve with decent dynamics plugs-ins, but there's a lot of choice out there, from Slate to PSP Vintage warmer?

A lot of my sound is now by the Roland JD XA, I find it fun to work with, but the sound is fairly raw without high end plug-ins perhaps?


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Hopefully this is it now, took on board comments and finalised mixing and tracking panning and added some frilly bits such as piano reverses. Bass a little louder and tracked where some notes comparatively loud

Thanks again guys


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Originally posted by Richard Butler
So here's the version having taken on board feedback, so sorry to hog this damned thread.

Back to my more powerful drums, lots of mixing and transition work done.

Still not sure about the bass, not sure if it has enough character or not.

I also have a vocalist doing her own take on things, Ill see how that goes.




Structure and melody vice this work is perfect - just two small things to massage and you should start to shop around for good place to represent you -> so first will be hats, cut some from high freq to make is sound more balance as right now it is a bit to bright for my ear, two - your bass needs a bit of level adjustment (volume) or some lifting in mid-low freq would give you similar result but don't change anything else as the rest sounds just perfect.

Cheers man,

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Man, you are quick lol as my above comment was for your first version lol but sounds like it is still valid.

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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Hopefully this is it now, took on board comments and finalised mixing and tracking panning and added some frilly bits such as piano reverses. Bass a little louder and tracked where some notes comparatively loud

Thanks again guys



if your aiming for the beatport market/earphones then i think you need to get the top end of the bass coming through, im listening on my laptop and cant hear it at all


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