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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by gordan100
Yeah, i've deleted it because it was shitty. It still is. Just making uninspired shit lately



i think thats pretty cool dude nice bass and cool kind of retro feel. One thing is it might be a good idea to learn a bit more music theory, cos your stuff tends to be quite musical so this might help you piece it together


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gordan100
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quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
i think thats pretty cool dude nice bass and cool kind of retro feel. One thing is it might be a good idea to learn a bit more music theory, cos your stuff tends to be quite musical so this might help you piece it together


Thanks Chris, yeah, i should learn more theory, often i just hit the wall because of music theory ignorance.


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SystematicX1
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Thanks Chris, yeah, i should learn more theory, often i just hit the wall because of music theory ignorance.


I am the same way. As an excuse, I try to tell myself it gives me more musical liberties doing so /grins



Actually Gordan, that bass is pretty slick. Not sure about the chiming higher floating tones however. Personally, I love these kinds of approaches. You have a solid bass and kick combo, you could take that many different directions when choosing those next notes that are melodies or higher freq tones. Personally, I'd go with something 2 or 3 octaves lower in order to hit that mid range freq. Maybe an arp? Rolling bass line? At any rate, basic yet solid foundation. You should roll with it man.


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So, I got time to sit down and do some development on some tracks.
Not going to ask for specifics in order to compare my thoughts with another ear.
First track was something I posted awhile back but it was truly a early wip and still kind of is.
Second is a remix from Kuffdam-We Gotta Go. It is an older song that I had never heard of before. I was issued as a challenge from a friend. Back then , he told me I get to use only 4 single stems. I never completed it or even thought about starting it because at the time, I had no idea how to even approach it.
Needless to say, I stumbled across the folder and remembered all of that and thought...hmm Maybe I will take a stab at it and this is what it has become. Needs some cleanup but otherwise, kinda digging it.




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gordan100
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quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
I am the same way. As an excuse, I try to tell myself it gives me more musical liberties doing so /grins



Yes, but now it's maybe time to help our souls with some good old theory



quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
So, I got time to sit down and do some development on some tracks.
Not going to ask for specifics in order to compare my thoughts with another ear.
First track was something I posted awhile back but it was truly a early wip and still kind of is.
Second is a remix from Kuffdam-We Gotta Go. It is an older song that I had never heard of before. I was issued as a challenge from a friend. Back then , he told me I get to use only 4 single stems. I never completed it or even thought about starting it because at the time, I had no idea how to even approach it.
Needless to say, I stumbled across the folder and remembered all of that and thought...hmm Maybe I will take a stab at it and this is what it has become. Needs some cleanup but otherwise, kinda digging it.





Conarium tester is a bit to sharp, metalic for my ears. There is a lot of white noise on pad. Other sounds tends to be pretty sharp too. I like the idea and melody. At 3:28 you introduce more elements which distracts main melody imo, but brings nothing to progression.

Remix sounds nice, very pleasant for listening.


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Richard Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by SystematicX1
I am the same way. As an excuse, I try to tell myself it gives me more musical liberties doing so /grins



Actually Gordan, that bass is pretty slick. Not sure about the chiming higher floating tones however. Personally, I love these kinds of approaches. You have a solid bass and kick combo, you could take that many different directions when choosing those next notes that are melodies or higher freq tones. Personally, I'd go with something 2 or 3 octaves lower in order to hit that mid range freq. Maybe an arp? Rolling bass line? At any rate, basic yet solid foundation. You should roll with it man.


-------------------------------------------------------


So, I got time to sit down and do some development on some tracks.
Not going to ask for specifics in order to compare my thoughts with another ear.
First track was something I posted awhile back but it was truly a early wip and still kind of is.
Second is a remix from Kuffdam-We Gotta Go. It is an older song that I had never heard of before. I was issued as a challenge from a friend. Back then , he told me I get to use only 4 single stems. I never completed it or even thought about starting it because at the time, I had no idea how to even approach it.
Needless to say, I stumbled across the folder and remembered all of that and thought...hmm Maybe I will take a stab at it and this is what it has become. Needs some cleanup but otherwise, kinda digging it.






TRack 1 I liked from the point when the plucky synth comes in, and up to the drop. I kinda feel you've got a relaxing melody and palette there, so was hoping it would be all Anjunabeach, but at the drop and just prior it got a bit noisy and messy for me mate. Just the kind thing I end up doing - over-egging it some, lol.
The mix at the drop is not working buddy.

Track 2 nice and relaxing. It needs either some vocals / vocal stabs / samples or some kind of standout arp or something to give it a finished personality.


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Richard Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by gordan100
Yeah, i've deleted it because it was shitty. It still is. Just making uninspired shit lately




Great kik n bass groove.
I think a job for u to focus on now is trying to get cohesive synth lines - for me personally what you have here is sort of shop-noodling synths. We all make this mistake a lot IMO, myself most definitely included.

Close your eyes and imagine being in a synth shop, and if your track sounds like someone noodling over a beat, then for me personally it's not working. It can work in expert hands - someone like Underworld could pull It off but I cant.

I hope this rambling critique makes some kinda sense, lol


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gordan100
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Great kik n bass groove.
I think a job for u to focus on now is trying to get cohesive synth lines - for me personally what you have here is sort of shop-noodling synths. We all make this mistake a lot IMO, myself most definitely included.

Close your eyes and imagine being in a synth shop, and if your track sounds like someone noodling over a beat, then for me personally it's not working. It can work in expert hands - someone like Underworld could pull It off but I cant.

I hope this rambling critique makes some kinda sense, lol



Hehe, yes it makes sense, thanks. But i like noodling. Sometimes noodling goes well, mostly goes bad .

Here's a different take on previous bassline.


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SystematicX1
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quote:
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Track 2 nice and relaxing. It needs either some vocals / vocal stabs / samples or some kind of standout arp or something to give it a finished personality.


I totally agree that this deserves some vox and it would greatly improve the track. Contemplating it hard.
Got a final mix as it needed a few elements and some cleanup


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I totally agree that this deserves some vox and it would greatly improve the track. Contemplating it hard.
Got a final mix as it needed a few elements and some cleanup



Its an impressive sound

I really dig the sizzling pad stab thing


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Richard Butler
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So Chris I'm trying to finish some schit following your motivational talk!

Would you say this is worth finishing?


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SystematicX1
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Its an impressive sound

I really dig the sizzling pad stab thing


Tried my hand at some SevenLions style pad ducking. Took 3 compressors all sidechained with low action and a huge release. Can't remember if 7L said or not but I think he said he uses a gate as well to get those long tails.


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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
So Chris I'm trying to finish some schit following your motivational talk!

Would you say this is worth finishing?



Definitely imo no time to comment properly atm but sounds good to me. But what i think is not really important

finishing the tracks off is the hardest part (for me anyway)sounds like you have nt gittoo far to go


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