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Looney4Clooney
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Things out of key, you can't use modern production and have all those bass 16ths at the velocity. It takes too much room and also sounds static. It should have that "rolling " quality. Sort of leading to the next quarter note.


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Zak McKracken
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Originally posted by PaULiN0
How can you tell, in my midi roll its in f major






Thats all subjective and depends on the listener of course. Also if you read the first post, i kept it basic as possible.





i can tell by ear, something it seems you do not have.

first of all, any major key will not fit into your intro without a change in the baseline as its a minor scale going there.

also have you considered the possibility that youre synth presents may have transposed oscs meaning a midi F could be something else? lol. My midi's are all in C minor scale, however I transpose the synths from time to time.

Guys making presets might do the same if they suck.

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Looney4Clooney
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You have the bass on f.

This will force the listener to assume this is the root as it doesn't change. Then for some reason you seem to outline d minor over f except you also add before that bit comes in a synth on eb,

So you are in f minor and then you outline a minor 3rd on d and you have eb and e

Amazes me that people use midis. If you can't hear this, I mean shot dude. I don't know what to say.

You are superimposing 2 keys that are not related in any close way


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PaULiN0
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So if the bass is in F that means its not the root note which also means it shouldn't be in f major but minor? Yeah i'm shot when it comes to key detection, every bit helps.


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Seandroid
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So if the bass is in F that means its not the root note which also means it shouldn't be in f major but minor? Yeah i'm shot when it comes to key detection, every bit helps.


You...... You seriously can't hear it...?

Like. I can't explain to you the technical reasons that it sounds completely off, but isn't it... Super obvious?


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PaULiN0
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You...... You seriously can't hear it...?

Like. I can't explain to you the technical reasons that it sounds completely off, but isn't it... Super obvious?


are you gonna flame me now?


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People who shouldn't produce for 400 Alex.


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It's more like, if you cannot hear if something is out of tune, you are really far away from a decent quality song.


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PaULiN0
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I guess i am dellion, but that won't stop me.


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theterran
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Might I suggest Paulino, that you listen to some classical music for awhile. Bach and Mozart for example, are great for ear training in terms of chord structure.

You *should* be able to hear "right" from "wrong" under normal circumstances, but sometimes it takes some practice.

And you should be also able to make as complicated a chord structure/progression as you want by ear without knowing theory this way.

Also...*rolleyes* @ TAflaming.

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PaULiN0
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Yeah i like classical, i hope i can train my ears better, thank you terran.


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Zak McKracken
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if youre so loaded why the fuck dont you get some proper musical training from a piano teacher.

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