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skip
a.k.a. skip2
Registered: Sep 2002
Location: home or somewhere else
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i gotta say something about the a&h vs. pio thing altho i'm no expert on the subject.
when i started djing i bought a djm-300s. i pretty much hated it from the start, didn't really know why back then. sure, it was simple to use and all, but i just didn't like it.
then i bought a vestax pcv-175 and immediately noticed that i liked its sound much more. it wasn't as simple as the pioneer but that didn't bother me one bit.
then i grew out of it and got a xone:92 and immediately fell i love with it. i love the sound and everything else. sure it has some controls that take some getting used to, but so what? you'll get used to them and you'll fucking love it as it's a fucking brilliant mixer, pretty much the best on the market atm.
so if i'd sort the mixers i've had based on the ease of use, the order would be this:
pioneer > vestax > allen & heath
if i'd sort them by sound quality the order would be much different:
allen & heath > vestax > pioneer
and if i would sort them by the general feel of playing with them it would be:
allen & heath > vestax > pioneer
even though the pioneer is the easiest of them to use.
sure, this comparison is kinda stupid as each of these mixers are in a totally different price range. and i really have no idea how much the djm-600 and the 300 differ on feel and sound quality but i do think they're very similar, the 600 just has more features. and i have no idea how much better the djm-400 and 800 are.
the vestax is a rather old model and i have no idea how it compares to newer ones, but i liked it (altho it looked horrible and had some things i didn't like about it).
i also have never played on any other a&h than my precious xone:92 rotary, so i don't know how they would compare.
but from all this i'd say that i would never get a pioneer mixer again, even if my xone broke and i couldn't afford a new one. i just don't like them at all, they don't really seem professional enough to me.
if i couldn't afford an a&h i'd get a vestax (or a rane, but i have never tested one so i have no idea if i'd like a rane).
i dunno if my rambling made any sense. i just woke up. but i felt like i needed to say something on the subject. and the general point is something like: pioneer mixers aren't as good as they seem IMO.
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Jan-05-2008 11:11
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i got big pants
Your Face
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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when using a dvs...which mixer would be better? i remember somebody saying since you have a digital source, the pio would be better for a dvs. contemplating picking up a new mixer...dont know yet as to which one though
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Jan-05-2008 19:55
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miamitranceman
Extreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Miami
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quote: | Originally posted by skip
i gotta say something about the a&h vs. pio thing altho i'm no expert on the subject.
when i started djing i bought a djm-300s. i pretty much hated it from the start, didn't really know why back then. sure, it was simple to use and all, but i just didn't like it.
then i bought a vestax pcv-175 and immediately noticed that i liked its sound much more. it wasn't as simple as the pioneer but that didn't bother me one bit.
then i grew out of it and got a xone:92 and immediately fell i love with it. i love the sound and everything else. sure it has some controls that take some getting used to, but so what? you'll get used to them and you'll fucking love it as it's a fucking brilliant mixer, pretty much the best on the market atm.
so if i'd sort the mixers i've had based on the ease of use, the order would be this:
pioneer > vestax > allen & heath
if i'd sort them by sound quality the order would be much different:
allen & heath > vestax > pioneer
and if i would sort them by the general feel of playing with them it would be:
allen & heath > vestax > pioneer
even though the pioneer is the easiest of them to use.
sure, this comparison is kinda stupid as each of these mixers are in a totally different price range. and i really have no idea how much the djm-600 and the 300 differ on feel and sound quality but i do think they're very similar, the 600 just has more features. and i have no idea how much better the djm-400 and 800 are.
the vestax is a rather old model and i have no idea how it compares to newer ones, but i liked it (altho it looked horrible and had some things i didn't like about it).
i also have never played on any other a&h than my precious xone:92 rotary, so i don't know how they would compare.
but from all this i'd say that i would never get a pioneer mixer again, even if my xone broke and i couldn't afford a new one. i just don't like them at all, they don't really seem professional enough to me.
if i couldn't afford an a&h i'd get a vestax (or a rane, but i have never tested one so i have no idea if i'd like a rane).
i dunno if my rambling made any sense. i just woke up. but i felt like i needed to say something on the subject. and the general point is something like: pioneer mixers aren't as good as they seem IMO. |
Yeah I mean it's totally not fair to compare a DJM 300 with a Xone 92. You'd notice a huge difference in sound quality on a 400/700/800 that, I don't care what anyone says, is totally comparable to a Xone. If you're on an all digital connection especialy, I personally think the Pios sound better than a Xone. It's a matter of opinion though.
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