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optik
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Registered: Jun 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by theterran
Yeah initially I thought it sounded out of place, but again, stated that it fits perfectly when the build hits. Would be ideal to get the saw to fit in both parts.


It's rather well produced - sounds smooth and sweet - but that's the easy bit really, as getting this to really bang will take a bit of mastering work. the mix feels right at the moment, but those hats are going to get a bit grating when you limit/maximise this. Musically it's quite basic and certainly progressive. I can't help but think it needs a strong melodic element to push it upwards.

I enjoyed listening


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optik
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quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Here is something different from me -> this time is Progressive-Chillout, still a WIP but you can definitely see/hear the direction I'm pushing this track through.

Cheers and appreciate !!!

Darek



really liking this - it sounds expensive!
not much to criticise here - all praise omnisphere?

except at 1:53 the timing goes a bit weird for a bar..

and it doesn't get to where I want tit to get to, which is dropping back just to thekey elements for a little while


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optik
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: oxford

this is the track I was reviewing above mate - this topic makes life difficult..

quote:
Originally posted by theterran
Small update for something I've been workin' on. (haven't had much time to sit down and really work on music lately)

Mostly minor changes, trying to be careful with this one...

- Beefed up the kick, beefed up and separated the bass[es] slightly.
- Added slight resonance boosts to the Sine-lead and it's respective layers. (really loving how this sound turned out)
- Added a bit more dead-space in the buildup. (more silence really adds to that loudness factor without actually having to increase the volume )
- Added variation to the main melody. (Currently AAAB...subject to change if I come up with any new/interesting ideas for the melody)

(a few of these changes aren't even audible...thanks soundcloud -_-)

Debating whether to break it down and end it as it is, or try a bridge/rebuild with some variation. Not really sure what to do with it now. (maybe take another break from it for awhile)

Anyway, here's what I got...Really diggin' this one, so...Feedback welcome, naturally.


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optik
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Location: oxford



WIP 136bpm trance
it needs something.. maybe structurally.. or maybe it needs less..

certainly intro needs a lot of work

anyway crits appreciated


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Old Post Jun-20-2014 11:20  United Kingdom
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theterran
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quote:
Originally posted by optik


WIP 136bpm trance
it needs something.. maybe structurally.. or maybe it needs less..

certainly intro needs a lot of work

anyway crits appreciated


Pleasant uplifting prog.

A bit dynamically squished for my taste. I'm not really a fan of what the loudness war does to tunes and the effect it has on the dynamic range is quite visible in a meter and audible when you turn it up. You can hear how stuffy and compressed it is at high volume.

Why does the intro need more work in your opinion? Seems like a pretty standard intro. Seems like enough room to mix in from a previous track. Sometimes, less is more.

Chord prog. at 1:31 is nice, bass plays along well here. Like the intricate accents that happen around 2:05, could maybe use more of this in the first breakdown to open up some space. The instruments are well chosen and fit well together. The melody is nice...

A bit mixed on the release into the main theme at 2:47. It works of course, but it just feels very matter of fact. Could maybe use a little more flavor, possibly a split second before the tune kicks back in at 2:50 or slightly more put into the release. It is the main theme that it's leading into.

Like the interplay between the overdriven saw and piano at the main theme, and they're leveled nicely here. Quite a nice mix of melody and harmony here. Energy at 3.20 is good.

Why the removal of the kick at at 3:32? Absolutely kills the energy before the breakdown even happens. Release felt a bit weak at 3:45 due to this I think.

Also not sure what to make of the faux break-down that follows it at 4:14. This is the point where I felt a bit pulled out of the track. The flow felt kinda broken here as I was expecting an actual break-down with some added interest, rather than quick rehash. It works, but didn't seem to really add as much to the tune. (except for 40 more seconds)

Overall good work though, I enjoyed it. Nice tune. gl with it.

Last edited by theterran on Jun-22-2014 at 06:37

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Looney4Clooney
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quote:
Originally posted by optik


WIP 136bpm trance
it needs something.. maybe structurally.. or maybe it needs less..

certainly intro needs a lot of work

anyway crits appreciated


i can make a melody for you that works a little better.


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quote:
Originally posted by optik



Nice tune, yes a pat on the back lol

Pretty much agree with theterran, however I'm not a fan of the lead at 2.50.. Its the layer you add when the beat kicks in. I like its sound it just don't fit with the existing plucky sound imo. At 3.20 it changes (the plucky sound removed or filtered) and sounds much better. At 4.20 again it's sounding different and I don't think you need all that variation. Could also maybe work on the transition at 1min, seems a bit sudden or weak if that's the right word?

I've had a few listens now and I'm liking the track, but take up looneys offer to see if you can improve. Can't do any harm?

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optik
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thanks for listening guys, really appreciate the feedback! - the things you've pointed out I agree with and will fix the track tonight.

Really appreciate the time!

looney - would appreciate your melody, it's a somewhat generic chord progression I think and I was nicking bits of my own track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvc6UgsEV0w
to give it a bit of an old school trance feel - would be interesting to hear your take on it, cheers

thanks guys

t


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TranceLover007
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Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Seattle, USA

quote:
Originally posted by optik
really liking this - it sounds expensive!
not much to criticise here - all praise omnisphere?

except at 1:53 the timing goes a bit weird for a bar..

and it doesn't get to where I want tit to get to, which is dropping back just to thekey elements for a little while


Thanks Toby for your good word - appreciate.

This WIP may or may not be finish as I like to use this type of exercise of working on different type of genre to reset my overall perception of the music lol -> if you know what I was talking about -> after spending lots of time working only in one particular type of music you literally will become handicapped over time

Darek


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quote:
Originally posted by optik


WIP 136bpm trance
it needs something.. maybe structurally.. or maybe it needs less..

certainly intro needs a lot of work

anyway crits appreciated


Overall very pleasant listening experience Toby -> really like this very sooth/tender layer of melodic softness (in part 1:30 ~ 2:50) and follow with vibrant and energetic/dynamic part right after it.

At 4:45 I wish I could here some additional melodically structure part (where I think L4C is referring to) which would overall increase attractiveness of this production.

The rest is simply your own vision for this track and how I would like to see this track progress doesn't really matter



Cheers,

Darek


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quote:
Originally posted by theterran
Small update for something I've been workin' on. (haven't had much time to sit down and really work on music lately)

Mostly minor changes, trying to be careful with this one...

- Beefed up the kick, beefed up and separated the bass[es] slightly.
- Added slight resonance boosts to the Sine-lead and it's respective layers. (really loving how this sound turned out)
- Added a bit more dead-space in the buildup. (more silence really adds to that loudness factor without actually having to increase the volume )
- Added variation to the main melody. (Currently AAAB...subject to change if I come up with any new/interesting ideas for the melody)

(a few of these changes aren't even audible...thanks soundcloud -_-)

Debating whether to break it down and end it as it is, or try a bridge/rebuild with some variation. Not really sure what to do with it now. (maybe take another break from it for awhile)

Anyway, here's what I got...Really diggin' this one, so...Feedback welcome, naturally.



How many bass lines you have right from the beginning?

One of them sounds like has some artificial deformation on last two notes (sounds like the mid range one) but is gone in second part of your track.

1:48 - may have to get a slightly better transition into a break (in my opinion) - the rest has really good potential if is taken right direction - so far so good !!!

Darek


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quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Nice man, I think you could bump up the perceived quality a lot if you work a lot more on your percussion aesthetic(if you're into that).


Nice to have your input Mac, appreciate!!! - where have you been???

Darek


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