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Raphie
Mastering Engineer



Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

this is my previous post revisited, on the deeper, morey groovy, hypnotic organic side of house.
A full round kick, hypnotic percussion and weird nuances changing over time.

Mind you this is LIVE tweaking, (turning knobs, mixing channels and applying FX) works best if you just go with the flow, it's not polished, just lush deep grooves for when you're not sober

you can download the HQ WAV if you want to listen full bitrate.


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Old Post Nov-09-2013 20:50  Netherlands
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Juan Paulino
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Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Rouge City

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
so in potential it's a nice track, mix stil a bit dull, but what realy bothers me is the ear candy loop, it's to Obvious and too static and cliché ommhhhhh stststststsstst... ALL THE F#CKING Time

come on man, keep the synths, bassline but work on impressive percussion, taking the track to the next level.


Finally, raphie you rule, thanks man. I'll work on making the mix warmer some how, any suggestions?


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Juan Paulino - Quantum Break (Original Mix) [Progressive Breaks]

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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Finally, raphie you rule, thanks man. I'll work on making the mix warmer some how, any suggestions?


3k to 5k medium Q is your friend, stay away from the metalic 8k-10k
your looking for liquid opening up the mix.


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Juan Paulino
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Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Rouge City

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
3k to 5k medium Q is your friend, stay away from the metalic 8k-10k
your looking for liquid opening up the mix.


Hmm, i guess i should look up ways to do things like this on my master channel because i don't have didly squat on it

and by ear candy, is that a good thing?


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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
3k to 5k medium Q is your friend, stay away from the metalic 8k-10k
your looking for liquid opening up the mix.


to make the mix warmer?? not sure thats the range for warmth, 3k to 5k will make it more in your face tho


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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

The way i see most modern tracks is

a beat (kick + percs hihats)
I really like people who program these rather then grab vengeance or loopmasters

then you have your bass synths, these need already to sound phat and crispy solo, but also gell with the drums

then you'll have some leads / plucks / stabs whatever, these will need to bring the emotion

and then you have your fair share of risers/downers/explosions and fx layers to further spice up your percussion. If you feel you need to use these, then you're not able to build enough tension with your core content.

A lot of people might dissagree, but a lot of stuff i hear is form over substance, meaning, the whole shebbang of the right samples, the right presets and the right midi rifs are there, so near perfect execution technically, but the track itself is then F#cking boring, if you knw what I mean, not saying your track is, but YOU should be able to be happy with your track jst trusting your core components, rather than leads and bass being a sorry ass excuse for completing the track.

with ear candy i mean all the whooshes, 8 measure loopmasters/vengeance/nexus FX samples, sidechained built ups, explosions.... you don't need all that crap. The arrangement and melody should speak for itself. Or if you want to use ear candy, make some yourself and use it differently than everybody else.

just some general thoughts here.


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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
to make the mix warmer?? not sure thats the range for warmth, 3k to 5k will make it more in your face tho

3k-5k is mid/high, it will open up the mix.
that's the "warm" side of highs, compared to 10k which is the earpiercing harsch side of highs

And i would not neccecarilly apply this to your master, but use it to let some elements "shine" (i.e. liven up percussion/ironwork and your leads)

i did not mention warmer, as in 3rd order harmonics or creamy lows.


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Juan Paulino
Come Away O Human Child



Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Rouge City

No loops here, everything is done by only me. Vengeance can suck it.


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Juan Paulino
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Registered: Mar 2012
Location: Rouge City

Updated.


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SystematicX1
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Registered: Sep 2010
Location: Las Vegas

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
It sounds good, but I don't know whats yours and whats the original so I cannot comment too much.

The shuffle hats / snares I hear now and then do not work, the timing is a bit off and they are to much filling the soundscape, keep it a bit cleaner.

Sorts of track I hear playing on FIFA games.


Thanks Richard...really do appreciate your feedback


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Vancouver
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Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver, canada

Peep this. let me know what you like and dislike. I tried to keep things constantly changing. track produced on reason6

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Vancouver
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Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver, canada

Here's what I've got going, I posted an earlier version a while ago but this is approaching full length now.

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my honest opinion for what it is worth... I happen to love this style of EDM. I listen to W&Ws radio show every week and hear similar tunes. your track has all the elements. the sound quality is great and the track works. For me though it is just missing something that grabs me and pulls me in, completely subjective I guess. Overall a good effort.

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