quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hahaha, i literally have no idea who you're talking about and that's not how i choose my pop culture. i just raised GoT and BSG as two examples of nerd TV that achieved mainstream success while mostly remaining pretty good.
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Ha I think you're confusing commercial success with with "good" content and they're not necessarily the same thing GoT was utter dross it's only really manchildreden (the same who keep these endless flow of superhero films popular) who like their incest porn to have dragons and swordfights. There was a really interesting analysis over on reddit a while back that demonstrated all but one of the major "stars" have been unable to capitalize on the success level of GoT and all of them had movies that underperformed, indicating that the shows success wasn't down to talent or writing (lol).
I think BSG is an entirely different beast. it firstly was a reboot of existing IP so already had a fan base, and the reboot was really in the grand scheme, lower budget scifi on a scifi network that was a runaway success becuase it was indeed good quality programming and storytelling, as opposed to GoT that was obviously gratuitous geek porn on various levels.
quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i didn't say it was good, just that i liked it better than 7 & 8 which at that point surprised me.
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Well that's a fairly low bar, but at least I was able to sit through 7 - Solo was just fucking awful.
quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and of course, enjoyed it more than prometheus as the lowest scifi bar currently available it's good to make use of it
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Wash your mouth out
While prometheus is a shining beacon of scifi wonderment, I will say that covenant was really an absolute fucking mess. I'll admit I'm a sucker for well made atmospheric big budget but Covenant has more holes than Emmental cheese.
quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
actually, my favourite thing about the new films is their use of less CGI per square inch than the prequels. most of the world-based scenes are so much better-looking now because there's actual dirt, sand, props and actors in the shot rather than everything having been magicked in by ILM.
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Solo had less? I'm not sure we watched the same movies. The whole point that Lucas held off from making 1,2 and 3 the first time round was that Lucas and ILM, who were by far the world leader in FX simply didn't have the tech to create the worlds required for the clone wars etc, and his plan was to make those later when technology eventually caught up.
quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
While it’s true the original Star Wars effects were all miniature and stop motion work, the huge leap forwards in the effects in A New Hope were only possible because of computer-controlled cameras that could track past a model and give the illusion of movement. Each model was filmed against blue screen, and the ability of a computer to replicate an exact field of motion meant they could film numerous separate models and composite them together to create complex sequences. So ILM’s reputation has always been built on their use of computers to some extent.
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You make a good point but the computer aspect of this is somewhat mechanical here in comparison to the vast majority of what they really excelled at them time, which was
unbelievable models, painted backdrops and characters. The computer tech they were using wasn't just the GCI shitfest we see in Jar Jar's big day out, it was to help bring the physical models to life, so yes, computers were intrinsic to their success and development but they were really aiding their incredible and prolific ability to create galaxies and worlds from actual models. I think peoiple forget that ANH was released in 1977 and computer graphics at this point even at the bleeding edge was line drawings.
I'm sure everyone has seen before but it gives and indication of just how damn good they were at not using computers, and why the original movies felt so real:
Full gallery here:
https://imgur.com/a/Zt9Y4
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