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Why was Brazil awarded the Olympics? Everything I read in the media makes me think its quite the shithole. From pervasive crime, corruption, miserable economy, political instability, the Zika virus, pollution, labor unrest to class divide.


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Registered: Nov 2003
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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil and Manaus, Brazil

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
Why was Brazil awarded the Olympics?

Long Answer:

In 2007, Brazil was South America's rising star. The economy was booming, peaking in 2008 when we reached China-like growth rates. Millions were lifted out of poverty, and hunger became a thing of the past. I can proudly say the country where I was born is not the same country where I celebrated my 30th birthday (I'm 33 now, bear with me).

Olympic Games are are often awarded to newcomers at the world stage. Tokyo, Seoul, Mexico City, and Beijing all hosted the games as a way to show their new face to the world. It was our turn. The future looked bright. The Economist would tell how awesome we were. UNPD held us as an example (here's a PDF showing how much the country changed). BRICS became a thing, and there we were - the first letter of the acronym. We'd host both the Olympic Games AND the World Cup, all in a 2-year interval.

And that's when things got weird.

In June 2013, it all changed. The end of the commodities boom and the slowdown in the Chinese economy, helped bring our economy to a halt. Having an unpopular technocrat as president didn't really help either, and our government is a "closetted parliamentary system" who pretends to be like the US but has too many political parties for the comparison to work. The conservative elites had always been hostile towards the centre-of-left government which, after a while, became too cosy in power - angering our Fox News and our Rupert Murdoch. So, as soon as the eyes were on Brazil for the World Cup, we made sure we'd pull a tantrum of epic proportions.

The foreign press was befuddled. Why was a country that looked so good suddenly rioting? We couldn't answer either. Some would say it's because we should've spent the money on hospitals and schools, some complained about high taxes, and other causes were lost in the cacophony that ensued. But this was enough for approval ratings to plummet, and the government became increasingly weaker. We then held the most polarised presidential elections of my lifetime. The president won by the smallest of margins.

Dilma, now a lame duck by all accounts, made more and more enemies by the day, as the opposition smelt blood and our Tea Party wanted her impeached from day 1. Corruption charges against the ruling coalition didn't really help, so the junior party of the coalition jumped ship. Impeachment proceedings began, and we've yet to see what will happen. And by impeachment proceedings, I mean a no-confidence vote (government supporters would rather call it a coup). The whole thing is so confusing the foreign media doesn't seem what to make of it even when they interview our former presidents.

That's why it made perfect sense to award us the Olympics at the time, and why things aren't exactly going swimmingly well for the last couple of years.

Short Answer:

The bidding process happened before the World Cup.
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Everything I read in the media makes me think its quite the shithole. From pervasive crime, corruption, miserable economy, political instability, the Zika virus, pollution, labor unrest to class divide.

Pre-games hysteria has always been a thing (remember the Tottenham riots and terrorist attacks in London, the fog and corruption in Beijing, and so on?) - add that to a strange tendency among Brazilian upper classes to revel in a sense of inferiority and the growth pangs I described in the previous post (so that things are not exactly super right now) and you're bound to get the headlines we're seeing right now.

Homicide rates in Rio, however, have actually halved in the last 10 years (see the graph on the right), Zika (or Dengue) is not a problem in the dry season, and I really don't know what you mean by labour unrest - Paris has seen a general strike before the Euro Cup, not Rio.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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thanks for the post, lira. it's good to see you waffling about something interesting


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That moment when you're looking for a moderately suggestive but not too suggestive gif of either a frog or a goat licking the air on your phone.

I've had it with modern dating & flirting


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Jon_Snow
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Registered: Aug 2012
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Lira and his long winded excuses make me sleepy.

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil and Manaus, Brazil

How is it an excuse? I'm saying why it's come to this, and I'm not even saying it hasn't
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thanks for the post, lira. it's good to see you waffling about something interesting

One day, Paul, one day...




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Jon_Snow
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Registered: Aug 2012
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Lira makes me sleepy. Better?

The Olympic selection process, lack of transparency, and corruption mirrors that of FIFA. The games rather than engender goodwill, seem to only to highlight the inequities of the world.

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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil and Manaus, Brazil

Oh Lord Jesus and Saviour, I got a last minute ticket for "Iraq x Denmark" and "Brazil x South Africa"!

If ISIS blow the place up, tell the press the joke is on them, they'll never find 72 virgins in Brasilia


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Jon_Snow
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Registered: Aug 2012
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Lira if you dress up like an eagle please post pictures. If you need ideas see Sam from the Muppets. But I'm not sure it be possible for you to pull off his surly expression.

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Lira
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Lira if you dress up like an eagle please post pictures. If you need ideas see Sam from the Muppets. But I'm not sure it be possible for you to pull off his surly expression.

I promise I'll do my best!


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Jon_Snow
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Registered: Aug 2012
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quote:
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I promise I'll do my best!


He actually looks like Stu with the temperament of Jack.

Eagles have made a recent return to my area and I've seen them many a time. Fun fact Ben Franklin didn't want the eagle as our national bird...
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"For my own part I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen the Representative of our Country. He is a Bird of bad moral Character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him.

With all this injustice, he is never in good case but like those among men who live by sharping & robbing he is generally poor and often very lousy. Besides he is a rank coward: The little King Bird not bigger than a Sparrow attacks him boldly and drives him out of the district. He is therefore by no means a proper emblem for the brave and honest Cincinnati of America who have driven all the King birds from our country…

“I am on this account not displeased that the Figure is not known as a Bald Eagle, but looks more like a Turkey. For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America… He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on.”

If only The Hobbit/LOTR was written back then it might have soften his views. But the idea of you dressing up as a turkey instead does make me smile. Btw, what's the national bird for Brazil?

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