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evo8
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quote:
Originally posted by fuxzz
Glad to hear that, especially from you. I always liked the sound of your drums and kick/bass in the WIPs you've been posting here.

The male vocals will stay though. I’m aware of that it is ugly in one way, but that is kind of what I like about it.

I’m not up to date with modern techno. The inspiration to this one comes from schranz techno intertwined with progressive house…at least I think so. It is not impossible that your snippets here have been part of the inspiration to actually.

So maybe I have inspired you with the inspiration I got from you. That is a interesting phenomenon.

Looking forward to hear what you come up with. One of the dangers I think is when you start to think to much, and “want” to much. If you want to make a track in a certain style, you will not really listen and hear where the track itself wants to go. Often I feel like putting a track together is like a invisible puzzle. When the first peace is laid down, the rest is more about listening, and finding the hidden peaces that’s missing, than creating something. That is at least one way to look at it.

A tip would be, start with the background ambiance and go from there, that is at least what I did with this one.


thanks - i think i need to get the drums and bass right first but starting with background could be a good idea, I also need to listen to more music from late 90s/early 00s


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Fuxzz
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Originally posted by theterran
Nexus 2 : Piano, "Arena Ambience". FX Bus was : FabFilter Pro-Q2 -> Ozone 5 Multiband compressor + Harmonic Exciter -> Valhalla Vintage Verb (Nexus 2 Reveerb is decent, but not always the best choice)

Nexus has pretty good pianos. Both the standard Nexus 2 Piano and the PS Total Piano expansion pack are quite good.

I understand the preference thing. A few of the people who commented on my wip definitely seemed more into house...so I understood that they'd prefer a stronger kick / bass.

I try to review with more of an objective mindset, disregarding personal preference, trying best to consider what the artist was going for. Still might throw in a preference based opinion or two though, but never aimed at the mix. I've had a few songs get a really nice addition from an idea someone else had.

The other thing with mixes is that people are listening on varied systems. Something might be one way through headphone monitors, might be different on reference monitors, different listening environments come into play etc...



Yeah the piano sounds very nice. You have found the perfect amount of reverb and compression too!

Yes it is much to take into consideration in the world of music making, and even listening. Not only when listening for reviewing, but actually the same kind of mindset can be good to have when listening to music in general. Some of my favourite songs I didn’t even like the first time when I heard them, because I “thought” I didn’t like that kind of music. When I later heard them, and wasn’t aware in the same way, I actually liked them, and later came to love them. Strange how that works. I think many people doesn't even know how to listen to music anymore.

And y, others input can be very valuable, it’s only a matter of knowing when to listen and when to not listen, that can be a little tricky some times.

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Fuxzz
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Originally posted by evo8
thanks - i think i need to get the drums and bass right first but starting with background could be a good idea, I also need to listen to more music from late 90s/early 00s


The right kind of background can actually make a groove in itself, that’s why I often find it easier to start with that.

Btw, did this ever get finished? Sounds interesting.

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evo8
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The right kind of background can actually make a groove in itself, that’s why I often find it easier to start with that.

Btw, did this ever get finished? Sounds interesting.



yeah, fair chance i finished that one


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Fuxzz
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yeah, fair chance i finished that one


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Fuxzz
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Originally posted by TranceLover007
Which of those two version of the same production is most appealing to you:

1. Vocal version but those are only a short verses and repeated few time for space reservation - you can have a sense of style of this vocal which to me is really interesting and adding a spark to this track.



2. Instrumental version



Instrumental is a bit easy for release as you own 100% royalties lol but vocal one add some attractiveness to this production.

Which one do you like the most?


Darek


I listened to those a couple of days ago, and I was coming back now to to tell you that I personally don’t like the vocals…but that I think that version was quite catchy, and might be appreciated by a certain kind of people, especially young girls.

But now I don’t know, I actually sort of like it, in a way. Maybe it was the autotune that put me off the first time I heard it (together with the intro drums), that is usually not my cup of tea. But the vocals go well together with your melodies. And the melodies are good.


The instrumental version…I wasn’t to keen on that either the first time I listened, but it is quite nice. Both versions seems to have grown on me.

So which version do I prefer? I don’t know. But I have to say that I am a little curious to hear the end result of the one with the vocals. If you go for that, you could probably finish the instrumental too at a later moment. It is probably harder to go the other way around.

So there you go. I apparently think you should go for the Vocal version. And later the other one too

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Fuxzz
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Originally posted by theterran
I try to review with more of an objective mindset, disregarding personal preference, trying best to consider what the artist was going for. Still might throw in a preference based opinion or two though, but never aimed at the mix. I've had a few songs get a really nice addition from an idea someone else had.

The other thing with mixes is that people are listening on varied systems. Something might be one way through headphone monitors, might be different on reference monitors, different listening environments come into play etc...


I came to think about one more important variable. It makes all the difference what kind of mood you are in when listening to a song. Sometimes, when I am in a certain kind of bad mood, I can’t even stand listening to music at all.

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TranceLover007
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I listened to those a couple of days ago, and I was coming back now to to tell you that I personally don’t like the vocals…but that I think that version was quite catchy, and might be appreciated by a certain kind of people, especially young girls.

But now I don’t know, I actually sort of like it, in a way. Maybe it was the autotune that put me off the first time I heard it (together with the intro drums), that is usually not my cup of tea. But the vocals go well together with your melodies. And the melodies are good.


The instrumental version…I wasn’t to keen on that either the first time I listened, but it is quite nice. Both versions seems to have grown on me.

So which version do I prefer? I don’t know. But I have to say that I am a little curious to hear the end result of the one with the vocals. If you go for that, you could probably finish the instrumental too at a later moment. It is probably harder to go the other way around.

So there you go. I apparently think you should go for the Vocal version. And later the other one too


Sounds good man, thank you for your personal pick - overall I decided to go with vocal version and progression is going well and depend on vocal rerecording step (and how long it will take) I may be finish soon lol -> still working on drums sets as at this moment I'm not perfectly happy with it because doesn't drive this track the way I would like

Cheers man,

Darek


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Here is last preview of my latest work - still in progress so few things to watch for:

1) drums still in work
2) structure is good enough for vocal re-recording
3) ending will be added
4) balance and EQ may be occasionally out of place as I didn't want spend to much time on this task yet.

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SystematicX1
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Interesting Track Darek, very up lifting with a sort of 80's retro progressive feel.
I dig this. Production sounds tight and really don't have anything to add. If there was anything I could say is that the VOX at the begining. The vocoder chops seem a bit to choppy. But that's it..solid work as usual


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still banned.. lol..

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still banned.. lol..


I have always wondered why


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