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hexadecimal
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Took a quick (really bad) shot of the modular wall. Mostly set up now, just missing the modcan A system, a few modules from the euro system, and 2 modules from the 200e that are out for repair.

Going to be ditching the desk and replacing it with a bookshelf type setup on the opposite wall with a shelf for each modular. The Wiard 300 system will be racked up in a custom rack above the euro setup (which contains quite a few Wiard modules in eurorack format).

Once I get that done, I'll be able to start digging stuff like the Prophet VS out of storage because I'll finally have somewhere to put it all again.

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somehow this looks really creative
been thinking about some shelf thingy like that myself.

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somehow this looks really creative
been thinking about some shelf thingy like that myself.


Thanks! I actually love this set up - keep in mind there are also sections under the desk - so I keep alot of junk in there. For around $300 for shelf + plastic bins (IKEA) and $150 Steel Case training desk I found at used office furniture store, I have a "work" area in a room too. The entire room is not that big - it's only 11' x 9' and every inch counts. Bonus points: because it sits directly against the opposite wall from my main music desk area, the shelf acts as a natural diffuser . I had to get creative with my computer stuff too. The XPS generates a ton of heat and when I close the door, the room becomes SAUNA-hot in a matter of minutes. So, the door you see behind main computer area actually leads to crawl space, where my computer rig is situated. I bought bunch of "over ethernet" extenders - for USB, for Video (VGA)/Kbd/Mouse and really long DVI-D cable (35') and will run it from crawl area to my "studio", resolving noise and heat issues. I'll post some pics when done.


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Took a quick (really bad) shot of the modular wall. Mostly set up now, just missing the modcan A system, a few modules from the euro system, and 2 modules from the 200e that are out for repair.

Going to be ditching the desk and replacing it with a bookshelf type setup on the opposite wall with a shelf for each modular. The Wiard 300 system will be racked up in a custom rack above the euro setup (which contains quite a few Wiard modules in eurorack format).

Once I get that done, I'll be able to start digging stuff like the Prophet VS out of storage because I'll finally have somewhere to put it all again.



holy fucking shit man!!! I respect anyone who uses modulars. Personally, I find them too intimidating. I saw an insane modular at EARS in NYC - they had it on loan from the owner who in exchange for loaning it to them for a year would get a repair for free. I'll post a pic I snapped later.

But here's how I see synth progression:

Samples + Acid --> Soft synth --> Rompler --> Virtual Analog/Analog --> Modular --> Reactor/Kyma/Absynth/NL Mod --> MaxMSP --> DIY synth


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this thread (well not this, but the dj-booth-variant of it) got stickied in the djbooth, should we do the same? its always coming up again anyway?

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Modulars aren't really intimidating at all, if you ignore the way they look. Certain things can be (the 200e has a pretty steep learning curve, especially if you haven't worked with modulars before). For the most part, unless you have absolutely no understanding of synth architecture, you'll be able to pick up the basics of using modular gear pretty quickly. It's all really straight forward, unless you get into really complex digital logic modules and other crazy shit, but I can't see anyone getting stuff like that for their first setup.

DIY stuff is easier than you'd think. There are plenty of resources out there that could guide even the most retarded of human beings (e.g. tiesto and armin fans) through a basic project.

I've never looked at it as a progression, though. Just different tools for different purposes. I'd never turn to one of my modulars if I wanted polyphonic pads, for example (unless I wanted to sample them for that purpose). That's what my microwave xt, andromeda, prophet vs, etc... are for. I'd also never turn to my Metasonix PT-1 if I wanted something to play in key (or stay within 2 octaves or so of "in tune").

Max/MSP never intimidated me much, but that's probably because I've been coding most of my life, and it just kind of made sense and forced my computer nerd and synth nerd sides to mesh and become one. I think the max for live idea was idiotic, though. There are going to be a lot of Ableton users scratching their heads after buying it, thinking it's just another instant gratification plugin.

Kyma is a great system. It would be a waste for most people, though. Lucky for the rest of us, those people usually end up selling their systems off cheap.

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Synthex and Jupiter 8 <3 -- you should get an Andromeda and ditch the Virus.


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Or just ditch the Virus, be happy with two of the nicest analog polysynths ever made, and put the money into as many spare parts as you can find for them, so you can continue to be happy with them.

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Or just ditch the Virus, be happy with two of the nicest analog polysynths ever made, and put the money into as many spare parts as you can find for them, so you can continue to be happy with them.


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Synthex and Jupiter 8 <3 -- you should get an Andromeda and ditch the Virus.


What's up with all the virus hatin? I like my TI. Although I do agree that soft synths are catching up with Virus. It's hard to justify keeping the virus if you're not a gigging/live musician when you have so many other synths and soft synths are pretty darn good.

though the thought did cross my mind. however, I always end up getting virus again, as I like it's sound A LOT... and I'm pretty comfortable using it these days.

BTW, I had Andromeda and Matrix 12 before - which I both sold and I'll be honest, I don't really miss them. Andromeda was perhaps the most overrated of all synths I ever owned. And yes, I did not use just presets but it just didn't do anything for me. It took TOOO FUCKING LONG to get it to sound different from everything else. It has the most bland sound and I doubt anyone could ever ID it in a mix. You can hear Virus or Moog or Jupiter or Elka and say - THIS IS such and such synth. With Andromeda it lacked it's own characters and it was perhaps the most digital sounding analog I ever played with.

Speaking of overrated synths, I also had Prophet VS, Prophet 08, DSI MEK, and DSI PEK which I also sold swearing to never purchase another sequential or DSI gear again, Pro 5 included... no offense.. just didn't do anything at all for me.


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My 2 next dream synths are: Hartmann Neuron Kbd and VSC3. Esp. after watching Dark Side of the Moon documentary, I really started to lust after EMS Synthi / VSC3 - that would probably be my first (pseudo)modular.


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this thread (well not this, but the dj-booth-variant of it) got stickied in the djbooth, should we do the same? its always coming up again anyway?

+1 I agree

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What's up with all the virus hatin? I like my TI. Although I do agree that soft synths are catching up with Virus. It's hard to justify keeping the virus if you're not a gigging/live musician when you have so many other synths and soft synths are pretty darn good.

though the thought did cross my mind. however, I always end up getting virus again, as I like it's sound A LOT... and I'm pretty comfortable using it these days.

BTW, I had Andromeda and Matrix 12 before - which I both sold and I'll be honest, I don't really miss them. Andromeda was perhaps the most overrated of all synths I ever owned. And yes, I did not use just presets but it just didn't do anything for me. It took TOOO FUCKING LONG to get it to sound different from everything else. It has the most bland sound and I doubt anyone could ever ID it in a mix. You can hear Virus or Moog or Jupiter or Elka and say - THIS IS such and such synth. With Andromeda it lacked it's own characters and it was perhaps the most digital sounding analog I ever played with.

Speaking of overrated synths, I also had Prophet VS, Prophet 08, DSI MEK, and DSI PEK which I also sold swearing to never purchase another sequential or DSI gear again, Pro 5 included... no offense.. just didn't do anything at all for me.


I enjoyed your insight here.

I sold my TI this past summer after owning it for about three years and designing a sound bank (see my sig). The main reasons:

*Using the Virus|Control is way too buggy and kind of sucked the fun out of owning a hardware instrument. The synth has gotten so damn complicated that you practically *have* to use the software interface to get reasonable access to all its features, but it's buggy and annoying -- always adding little clips and digital artifacts into the track as well as voices randomly cutting out when the CPU load goes up. Then, when you play through the track again, it would either sound perfect or there would be voices cutting out/digital artifacts somewhere else! Inconsistent and very annoying.

*I didn't feel the instrument was capable of anything that my current line up can't do better (Waldorf Q, Waldorf XT, Nord Lead 3, Alesis Andromeda).

*The instruments character is a bit too easy to pick up on. In this genre, I think it to be detrimental if someone can hear that you're using the same damn thing everyone else does. Makes you seem uninspired.

Although I have been thinking about getting an original Access Virus. I kind of feel they may have gotten it perfect the first time. All the main features are accessible right from the knobs, no space wasted on FX, and even though it doesn't have the third osc, I always found that to do little or nothing, especially when it already has a dedicated sub osc. While, as I said, its sound can be noticed VERY easily, it's capable of sounding quite unique when used right. And for $350 or so, I figure I'll give it a try. I do love this audio demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjR02Ju7UE

About the Andromeda, I suppose I can see not owning an Andromeda when you already have a JP8 and a SYnthex. I look at my Andy as the closest I'll ever come to owning a Jupiter 8. Not necessarily I feel it's impossible, but because I don't want to put that much $$ into something that is "old" technology. The Andromeda may not sound quite like a classic analog, but where it lacks there it makes up for it with voices, modulation capabilities, multi-timbrel capabilities, and other various features like having LFOs for every voice. You get all that for about $1750 used. PLUS, there were a lot of these made, so parts or a replacement will be easy to find if ever needed. I've heard lots of people complain about the Andromeda's sound, but I like it. It can definitely sound A LOT like a classic analog but still has a very modern punch and character.

On the DSI side of things, I've owned both a Prophet 08 and a PEK. I wasn't too fond of either and eventually sold. Even after I designed a sound bank for the Prophet 08. Its sound was very gritty and sloppy rather than punchy. Although I kind of like the Tetra since it has multi-timbrel capabilities. I may get one some day if I can find an easy way to get my patches on it. I have been meaning to email DSI about this.


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