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Meat187
Diese scheiß Katze
Registered: Dec 2007
Location: The Night's Plutonian Shore
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Jul-31-2012 17:06
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Beatflux
Rising Star in training
Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Planet Alf
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quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Well, I was going to write my big-ass post but then my housemate, who's a massive comic buff and erstwhile film student, just came in and said, "Had any more thoughts about TDKR?" and I can't be bothered saying it all again.
So, in short: it wasn't that good. The plot is extremely overcooked and relies on so many contrivances and conveniences that I just can't take the symbolic and allegorical struggles of each character seriously. I can't stand a film that tries to present itself as smart, and ladens down every character and fist fight with multi-layered allegory, and yet simultaneously treats the viewer like an idiot because it expects us to turn our brains off and accept so much stupidity and coincidence. This is basically a problem I have with comics and comic book movies in general. I thought The Dark Knight was a good film because it managed to stay just on the edge of plausibility. TDKR, in trying to top it, falls off the tightrope. |
TDK had a better story with a better villian.
Bane is clever and smart in the beginning and turns out to be a complete dolt who gets hit in the mask once and then is taken out completely by a character who could have been left out completely. Better yet, Batman should have died. Not pretend, I'm retired now but I'm still alive to appease fans, No! More like I made the ultimate sacrfice for the gotham, and that is to die.
There were so many loose ends that just got tied up in a passing, matter of fact way. How comissioner Gordan never figured out that Bruce Wayne was Batman is kind of shocking considering all of the gadgets and shit BAtman has, Bruce is one of the few in the city to have access to the kind of resources you would need.
Batman shouldn't have beaten Bane out of anger, but of fear. He's lost so much up until the point that losing gotham would have been a legitimate motivation to finally defeat bane. It would have actually have made sense so that Batman could apply what he learned.
Showing the Bat after batman got out of prison would have been better and more exciting. I don't know why filmmakers put the best action towards the beginning of the movie.
The passionate dialog between alfred and bruce is cut short in the beginning, and that is kind of too bad because their feud could have lasted longer and played a more integral part of the story.
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Aug-02-2012 06:33
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Looney4Clooney
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Registered: Apr 2010
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quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
TDK had a better story with a better villian.
Not pretend, I'm retired now but I'm still alive to appease fans, No! More like I made the ultimate sacrfice for the gotham, and that is to die.
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good luck selling that to the studio.
So um Mr NOlan, when you say die, you mean bat man 4 takes place in heaven ? No, jewish guy with dress shirt tucked into jeans, i'm saying thats it. Other jewish guy with poney tail and persian features -Right, because he has done all he can on earth, ahh we can do a 3 spin off, batman in hell , batman in heaven and batman in limbo. You know who be the best satan, Hellboy, ahhh yaaaa,
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old stuff from days gone by (2001-2004)
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