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varun
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Bangkok

quote:
Originally posted by WirelessEyes


My home


Very nice
Are those the Yamaha HS monitor series?
Which one? HS50 or 80?


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WirelessEyes
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Washinngton D.C

Thank you very much

Thery are the 80's and they sound great. I mix all kinds of music on them.. Ballads, hip hop, dance, etc. They are easy on my ears too

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Getafix
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@ WirelessEyes

I hope you know that its not really such a great idea putting your monitors in a corner. Ideally they should be pointing down the longest wall in your room.


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varun
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quote:
Originally posted by Getafix
@ WirelessEyes

I hope you know that its not really such a great idea putting your monitors in a corner. Ideally they should be pointing down the longest wall in your room.


Depends acually.
With reference to his listening / sitting position, the speaker on-axis response is falling exactly where it should be, on him.

For most home studio setups, I don't think you need to take room reflections into account,(depends on room dimensions as well) which is why monitors are adviced to be pointing down the longest wall in the first place.


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echosystm
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quote:
Originally posted by varun
Depends acually.
With reference to his listening / sitting position, the speaker on-axis response is falling exactly where it should be, on him.

For most home studio setups, I don't think you need to take room reflections into account,(depends on room dimensions as well) which is why monitors are adviced to be pointing down the longest wall in the first place.


sorry mate, this post is an epic failure.

hs80ms are rear ported. this means the bass flies out the back of the cabinet. bass builds up in corners. his speakers are facing back into a corner.

= standing wave mania.

it is a very bad idea to have your speakers going back into a corner because the frequencies accumulate at a very small point. this happens on all monitors, but really badly on rear ported designs. the reason you have speakers firing down the long end of the room is to reduce late reflections. conversely, you should have them firing accross the short length of a narrow room as it stops early reflections.

he is also massively off axis. unless he sits a good 1-2m back from his computer, hes not on axis. the way the speakers are positioned at the moment makes them akin to headphones, except there will be massive comb filtering in the middle.


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Getafix
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^
+1 What he said!

If you're having any doubts check out some acoustic forums or Ethan winer's website for more explanations.


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MegaMan
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as far as i can remember, bass travels slower than higher frequencies, there for as soon as it is emitted from a cabinet (not sure about monitors) it travels along the floor down to your feet, therefor the lower the frequency - the more time it will take to get to ya, thus it will get to you eventually, therefor the only thing you have to worry about are the mids and hights as they are the most essential in music production as they can be heard right away. Lower frequencies will reach you eventually, does not really matter how you position your cabinet or monitors, bass will always reach your feet since it is not concentrated in one point but rather dispersed through out the room floor.

i might be wrong as i am not too familiar with monitor placement and all those noise cancellation material they place on the walls, but i've studied the music concept from quite some time.


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farris
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as far as i can remember, bass travels slower than higher frequencies, there for as soon as it is emitted from a cabinet (not sure about monitors) it travels along the floor down to your feet, therefor the lower the frequency - the more time it will take to get to ya, thus it will get to you eventually, therefor the only thing you have to worry about are the mids and hights as they are the most essential in music production as they can be heard right away. Lower frequencies will reach you eventually, does not really matter how you position your cabinet or monitors, bass will always reach your feet since it is not concentrated in one point but rather dispersed through out the room floor.

i might be wrong as i am not too familiar with monitor placement and all those noise cancellation material they place on the walls, but i've studied the music concept from quite some time.

Errr...low frequencies not important? Seriously, read what echosystm said about standing waves. How about you place some of the biggest monitors with big bass drivers in a small room. I think the standing waves will eventually kill you.

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WirelessEyes
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Originally posted by echosystm
sorry mate, this post is an epic failure.

hs80ms are rear ported. this means the bass flies out the back of the cabinet. bass builds up in corners. his speakers are facing back into a corner.

= standing wave mania.

it is a very bad idea to have your speakers going back into a corner because the frequencies accumulate at a very small point. this happens on all monitors, but really badly on rear ported designs. the reason you have speakers firing down the long end of the room is to reduce late reflections. conversely, you should have them firing accross the short length of a narrow room as it stops early reflections.

he is also massively off axis. unless he sits a good 1-2m back from his computer, hes not on axis. the way the speakers are positioned at the moment makes them akin to headphones, except there will be massive comb filtering in the middle.


Thank you for this. When I get back into town I am going to rethink my monitor placement!

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MegaMan
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you must of missunderstood me, its a matter of a miliseconds

to the untrained ear, it wont make a difference


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echosystm
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quote:
Originally posted by MegaMan
you must of missunderstood me, its a matter of a miliseconds

to the untrained ear, it wont make a difference


the timing is irrelevant. the bass waves will clash with the other waves creating dips and "booms" accross the room modes. time has nothing to do with this at all, it will happen regardless of the time delay. so, your point is completely invalid lol.

what you are confused with is the physical distance it takes for a low frequency wave to develop. this doesn't have a lot to do with standing waves and accoustics really.

bass is actually the most important thing to worry about, as most rooms are not capable of absorbing bass frequencies well at all.


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Last edited by echosystm on Nov-24-2007 at 02:30

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farris
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quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
bass is actually the most important thing to worry about, as most rooms are not capable of absorbing bass frequencies well at all.

Yup! Put on some muzak, go stand in a corner and hear the bitch build up over there. If you're not going to treat your room, at least consider some (homemade) basstraps and place them in the corners.

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