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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasília, Brazil
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Danish law lets homosexuals wed in church
quote: | Originally posted by Znack
The examples you show don't say marriage necessarily is between a man and a woman, they just give examples of marriages that are. |
Exactly, because that's how many things are defined in the Bible. By praxis.
It isn't a legal document that contains definitions and detailed philosophical justifications. It was a document originally made for God's people (the Hebrews), so most definitions were taken for granted, and no one thought it would be necessary to change that when Christianity expanded.
quote: | Originally posted by Znack
Of course, I am well aware of when the Old Testament is against homosexuality in general, it also means it's against same sex marriage. |
Precisely, it never had to go as far as making this explicit because there were already quite many restrictions before this was considered.
quote: | Originally posted by Znack
But that wasn't the point. The point is, the Bible never explicitly defines marriage as being between a man and a woman - Therefore the argument for marriage doesn't work. |
Actually, that is the point. Find me one quote in the Bible that mentions a single instance of marriage without a bride and a groom.
quote: | Originally posted by Znack
You have to argue from the Bible's dislike of homosexual relationships and from that, infer that marriages are also excluded. |
This, and what I've already told you.
The Bible doesn't mention, for example that marriage does not include all of the groom's brother. Yet that's how traditional marriages have always been carried out in Nepal. Saying the Bible doesn't say anything about gay marriage is just like a conservative Nepalese saying the Bible does not forbid polyandry. It's so obviously out of touch with their tradition that they even bother to consider it.
quote: | Originally posted by Znack
If we accept homosexual relationships, then you can not use the Bible to support marriage being wrong and relationships being okay - because the bible doesn't directly say that. |
That's like saying you can't use the Bible for the existence of a common belief in God because it doesn't explicitly define what God is without a string of complicated metaphors, doesn't explain how God came into being (he's just, like, there!), how he came to be what he is (why is he omnieverything?), and the like.
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