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Jarvmeister
Building a fire......
Registered: May 2001
Location: Trancentral
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quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
His point is that its almost equitable to murder, and in some cases, receives harsher penalties then murder. That to me sounds pretty outrageous and his point is a fair one to make. |
No, his point was that it is considered a more serious crime than murder, and if you read my post I ackowlege that there are occasions when drug offenses will get stiffer penaties than murder.
BUT you cannot argue that first degree murder has a higher maximum penalty than drug dealing.
End of. There is no further argunment about it.
And I love gehzumteufel's desperate attempt to claw back a little dignity by posting a whole host of news stories that miss the point. I don't care if you post a case where a drug dealer got 30 years and a murderer got 10, I will just point you to the argument I have been making all along: because of the max penalty in the USA, murder is considered a more serious crime than drug dealing. It's a fact, you cannot argue it!
TBH I'm done with this now, it's going nowhere. I didn't like your response to Yukii's post, I thought it was uncalled for.
Respond if you like, but do it in the knowledge that I won't reply.
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Sep-12-2010 22:12
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gehzumteufel
In your ass
Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal
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quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
No, his point was that it is considered a more serious crime than murder.
It is not, it doesn't matter what you two post, you cannot argue that first degree murder has a higher maximum penalty than drug dealing.
End of. There is no further argunment about it.
And I love gehzumteufel's desperate attempt to claw back a little dignity by posting a whole host of news stories that miss the point. I don't care if you post a case where a drug dealer got 30 years and a murderer got 10, I will just point you to the argument I have been making all along: because of the max penalty in the USA, murder is considered a more serious crime than drug dealing. It's a fact, you cannot argue it!
TBH I'm done with this now, it's going nowhere. I didn't like your response to Yukii's post, I thought it was uncalled for.
Respond if you like, but do it in the knowledge that I won't reply. |
Are you aware that most murderers don't get first degree murder?! Fucking christ on a bike. You profess as if you fucking know what you're talking about and then only go on about how the maximum penalty for first degree murder is higher than most drug related offenses. Is that all you have? Is a fucking text book answer to what some line in the penal code says? For fucks sake go keep hiding under a fucking rock.
Also, you got it wrong. I never said that it was considered a worse crime. Here is the quote from what I said:
quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
The thing is, you find it sad because you are around a culture that makes drugs such a taboo and as a result, treat people that are involved in them, upstanding or not, like shit. As if they are rapists or child molesters. |
quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
You need to consider why this film has caused society to presume that drugs will lead to this. The US is a fucking cesspool of idiocy when it comes to the true effects of drugs. I mean shit, we put marijuana dealers (yes, I mean ones that strictly only deal marijuana) in jail for longer than murderers!
Look at the people that are advocating for all drugs and alcohol being banned. They are religious morality idiots. |
Now kindly run along.
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Sep-12-2010 22:17
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Omega_Blue
Someone Changed My Custom
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Gone
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quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i dunno, wiki maybe. it was pretty straight-forward, if like me, you rewound dialogue you didn't get the first time. but i like films like that
im no movie critic but i thought the parody bits (the high school archetypes in detective story) were part of the movie's charm. ie i thought the scene with the mum was great |
wiki has a basic summary but no in-depth analysis. i didn't bother rewinding the dialogue i missed because at the time i was watching it while trying to go to bed- the plot hooked me though and i ended up staying up and watching it all the way through i'm probably gonna have to watch it again.
and yeah, the first scenes that came to mind, parody-wise, was the scenes with the pin's mom hookin' it up with the apple juice, lol. i didn't like the idea that the guy was supposedly 26 years old, picking up 10 keys of raw at a time, but still livin with his mom. i understand why the director chose to do that, but it felt a bit off.
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Sep-13-2010 09:16
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eternalmay
Suspended User
Registered: Sep 2010
Location: NJ
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Sep-15-2010 03:49
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